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Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

630 | The Fly Fishing Therapist with Melissa Ceren – TroutRoutes, Colorado, Mental Health

Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

Dave Stewart

Sports, Hobbies, Leisure, Wilderness

4.7531 Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/630

Presented By: TroutRoutes

Today's episode is one of a kind. We bridge the gap between fly fishing and mental health with Melissa Ceren, the fly fishing therapist. Learn about her distinct approach to mindful fishing, strategies for overcoming imposter syndrome, and practical advice for therapy and angling.

Find out in this episode how outdoor activities and mental wellness go hand in hand.

Episode Chapters with Melissa Ceren on The Fly Fishing Therapist

02:22 - It was Melissa's husband who first took her fly fishing. But her first experience was terrible due to an unfriendly guide.

Her husband took her to an Alpine lake on her birthday, where she caught her first cutthroat trout. She fell in love with the sport and became a guide at Tumbling Trout within a year of starting fly fishing.

Melissa's Journey into Counseling

05:12 - Melissa has been in the counseling and mental health field for about eight years now. It all started when she joined the Suicide and Crisis hotline after high school.

She later transitioned to leading outdoor outpatient programs for people recovering from substance abuse, focusing on trauma, anxiety, and depression.

She pursued a master's degree in clinical mental health counseling at Clemson University and has been practicing as a therapist for three years now.

Tips for Mindful Fishing
Slow down and appreciate each moment, from catching fish to observing nature.
Pay attention to your feelings and think about why you are feeling frustrated or disappointed.

18:17 - Melissa addresses challenges like imposter syndrome and the pressure to perform as a guide, using positive self-talk to build confidence. Challenging negative thoughts can positively influence emotions and behaviors.

Finding a Therapist

25:47 - Melissa recommends Psychology Today's website for finding therapists by location, insurance type, and specialty. Here are some of her tips:

Call multiple therapists to assess their suitability.
It is important to feel comfortable and supported during initial conversations.
Don't be discouraged if you don't find the right therapist on your first try. Not every initial match may feel perfect.

Melissa also mentions crisis lines like the national suicide line and NAMI.

Fishing Tips from the Fly Fishing Therapist 
36:54 - Hire a guide if you can afford it.
Guides know the best spots.
They have the right gear for rent.
Watch online videos to improve casting techniques.
Spend a lot of time on the water to learn from experience.
Adjust depth to increase your chances of catching fish.
Learn from mistakes, like losing a fish, and ask for advice on how to improve.


TroutRoutes

39:40 - Melissa likes TroutRoutes because it's easy to use and helps find less-fished streams and public access areas. It's especially useful in Colorado, where private property rules are strict. Here are some highlights she mentioned:

Easy-to-navigate interface.
Find less-fished streams and rivers.
Ensures you're on public land.
Keeps up-to-date land ownership information.
Shows thousands of access points.

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/630

 

 

Transcript

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0:00.0

Depression, alcoholism, mindfulness, microdosing, marijuana.

0:08.0

We have a unique episode for you today where we're going to bridge the gap between fly fishing and mental health.

0:14.0

Today we're going to find out what you can do to help yourself more or help someone who is struggling through some of the tips and resources we share today.

0:22.4

And we have a professionally trained counselor who is going to walk us through to the Sunnyside.

0:28.5

This is the Wet Fly Swing podcast where I show the best places to travel to for fly fishing,

0:32.6

how to find the best resources and tools to prepare for that big trip, and what you can do

0:36.7

to give back to the fish

0:37.6

species we all love. Hey, I'm Dave, host the Webfly Swink podcast. I've been fly fishing since I was a little

0:43.0

kid. I grew up around a fly shop and have created one of the largest fly fishing podcast in this

0:47.7

country. I've also interviewed more of the greatest fly anglers than just about anyone out there.

0:54.0

Melissa Sarin, fly fishing guide, and professional counselor will be given us the tools we need to have a better day on the water this season.

1:02.0

Whether that's dealing with the loss of a giant trout while fishing or dealing with depression, Melissa will have some tools to help you out today.

1:11.8

Do you need a clinical therapist? We're going to answer this today. Should we try microdosing?

1:19.2

We're going to cover that. And where can you find a great psychologist or counselor, whether you

1:25.5

are anywhere in this country.

1:29.3

We're going to cover that one as well today.

1:34.0

Plus, you're going to get her favorite go-to fly for the summer and some tips on fishing it.

1:35.8

Changed it up today.

1:36.8

We're keeping it fresh.

1:40.7

Here we go, Melissa Sarin, at Big Mac Fishing on Instagram.

1:43.2

How you doing, Melissa?

2:17.5

I'm doing great. Happy to be here. Yeah, thanks for making time to put this together today. We Trout Routts connected us, and I wasn't aware of some of the stuff you had gone, so it's exciting to hear. You're bridging the gap between, we hear a lot about fly fishing, you know, talk about Project Healing Waters, lots of groups out there, and you hear about what fly fishing does for people. You're actually a professional counselor, you know, a licensed counselor, and you use that as part of your, you know, what you do and your kind of your day job. But you're also a guide. So we're going to talk about that in Colorado, maybe get some fishing tips out of you. But before we get into that,

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