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True Crime Binge

63: Rebecca Nagle

True Crime Binge

Bob Ruff

True Crime

4.8764 Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Bob is joined by award-winning activist and writer, Rebecca Nagle. Rebecca hosts “This Land,” a podcast by Crooked Media that centers around the many legal battles for indigenous rights that are occurring in the United States. As a citizen of Cherokee Nation, Rebecca brings her perspective and personal experiences to the podcast, delving deeply into the legal cases themselves, but also detailing the important histories and circumstances that surround each case. In the episode, Bob and Rebecca discuss Rebecca’s background and activism, the Gabby Petito case, and the issues of sexual assault and consent. They then dive into a discussion on a major topic of This Land’s Season 2, the case of Brackeen v. Haaland. The case originated as a lawsuit filed by a family seeking to adopt their indigenous foster child, but eventually grew into a federal case that would determine the future of the Indian Child Welfare Act of 1978. Rebecca’s research into the case also led her to uncover deeper conspiracies against the rights of Native Americans across the US, and to identify the specific groups responsible.

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0:00.0

What's up, bingers? Today I'm joined by an award-winning activist and writer.

0:05.0

She's a citizen of the Cherokee Nation and has created an amazing podcast dedicated to highlighting the many legal battles for indigenous rights that are occurring all the time in the United States.

0:15.5

Battles that most of us don't even realize are going on.

0:19.2

She is the host and creator of the This Land podcast.

0:23.4

Please welcome Rebecca Nagel.

0:28.4

The internet's full of true crime podcasts.

0:31.5

More and more are added to the list every day.

0:34.5

Figuring out where to start or where to go next can be overwhelming.

0:39.0

But have no fear,

1:11.5

I'm here to help. I'm Bob Ruff, andel, who Rebecca has informed me, so that after one look at me, she knew that if she told me it,

1:14.0

it rhymed with bagel that I wouldn't forget it.

1:18.2

And I've got a big fan of bagels, so I got that down.

1:25.1

And Rebecca, you're the host of The This Land podcast, which we're going to get into and get into the case that you're covering right now.

1:26.9

But you have a super interesting background that I want to talk about.

1:30.8

I mean, you have, you're an award-winning activist, writer, public speaker.

1:36.7

Can you tell us a little bit about your background?

1:39.3

Oh, yeah, for sure.

1:41.9

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1:46.6

I was Tessa dola,

1:48.3

um,

1:48.6

Di Gagi,

1:49.0

Gaila,

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