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627. Lionel Shriver Exposes The Psychology of Open Borders

heretics.

Andrew Gold

Documentary, Society & Culture, Personal Journals

4.3 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

First Novelist to Attack Immigration - They're DESTROYING Her Join the Community: https://andrewgoldheretics.com Lionel Shriver is a bestselling novelist (We Need to Talk About Kevin) who did something no one else has dared to do: she wrote a novel about immigration from the perspective of the native population. Her new book, "A Better Life," tells the story of a progressive Brooklyn mother who volunteers to house a migrant—and what happens when hospitality is requisitioned without consent. SPONSORS: Organise your life: https://akiflow.pro/Heretics  Earn up to 4 per cent on gold, paid in gold: https://www.monetary-metals.com/heretics/  Cut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month at https://mintmobile.com/heretics  GET LIONEL'S BOOK "A BETTER LIFE": https://www.amazon.co.uk/Better-Life-exploring-immigration-bestselling/dp/0008800103/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0  For this, the media called her novel "Keep America White." The New York Times despised it. The I newspaper ran a headline suggesting her book should be titled "Keep America White." But Lionel doesn't back down. In this conversation, we discuss why no novelist has ever written from this perspective before, the nuanced portrayal of both sides of the immigration debate, the rise of white ethno-nationalism as a response to years of anti-white rhetoric, the loss of culture that natives experience (just like colonized peoples did), and why the progressive establishment is terrified of this book. Lionel also shares her thoughts on Douglas Murray, the state of woke culture in 2026, cancel culture, the violence of the left, and what happens when a society loses its moral plot. This is one of the most important conversations about immigration, culture, and literature you'll hear this year. #cancelculiure #massimmigration #heretics  Join the 30k heretics on my mailing list: https://andrewgoldheretics.com  Check out my new documentary channel: https://youtube.com/@andrewgoldinvestigates  Andrew on X: https://twitter.com/andrewgold_ok   Insta: https://www.instagram.com/andrewgold_ok Heretics YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@andrewgoldheretics Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 1:11 Welcome - First Novelist to Write From Native Perspective 2:37 Eric Adams Program - The Inspiration for the Book 3:16 The Plot - Progressive Mother Invites Migrant Into Her Home 4:46 Nico - The Conservative Son With No Ambition 8:00 The Backlash - Keep America White Headline 9:04 Loss of Culture - What Happens to Natives 13:11 White Ethno-Nationalism Was Inevitable 15:24 The Mystery - Why Is The West Letting This Happen? 18:45 Literature Only Tells Immigration Stories From Immigrant Perspective 25:00 JK Rowling - Writers Who Push Back 26:11 The Elite Think Most People Are Despicable 27:04 Somalia Example - Some Groups More Beneficial Than Others 29:40 Immigration As Charity - A Better Life For Whom? 31:25 Immigrants Who Oppose Mass Immigration 34:00 How To Get Through To The Mainstream 38:20 The Publishing Industry's Reaction 43:10 Douglas Murray - The Heretic Lionel Admires 46:55 The Strange Death of Europe - The Book That Said What No One Would Say 50:30 Why Douglas Murray Travels With Bodyguards 52:45 Is Woke Dead in 2026? 58:07 Where to Get the Book 58:28 Douglas Murray Event in New York 1:00:05 Douglas Murray's Generosity 1:01:39 Will Woke Disappear Entirely? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You've just done something that is almost entirely remarkable in the world of literature.

0:04.4

You've written a book about immigration from the perspective of the native people.

0:09.4

I was aware of the fact that most books about immigration tell the story from the perspective of the immigrant.

0:15.2

And that is an implicitly sympathetic story.

0:19.1

It is something of a mystery why the West is lighting in so many people,

0:24.2

often with very negative economic consequences. The host population, their consent is generally not

0:31.6

requested or required. What has the reaction been? Oh, plenty. It really pokes a finger up the progressive bone.

0:40.3

There's a headline in the I newspaper.

0:43.3

The title to Lionel Shriver's new novel should be

0:47.3

Keep America White.

0:50.3

Wow.

0:51.3

And The New York Times despised this book and went on in some length.

0:55.2

So it obviously inflames the left.

0:58.7

I can't say I'm surprised.

1:00.6

It's deliberate colonization.

1:02.2

This is revenge.

1:05.7

Can you do me a favor?

1:07.2

If you get value from these conversations, hit subscribe.

1:12.3

Linus Riva, welcome back to the show.

1:17.4

I am delighted to be here. That's great to have you here. You've just done something that is almost entirely remarkable and exceptional in the world of literature, which is you've written

1:24.4

a book about immigration from the perspective of the home or the native people,

1:30.8

tell me a little bit about it.

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