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🗓️ 4 June 2025
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Marty sits down with Leon Wankum to discuss the current housing market correction, how Bitcoin is outcompeting real estate as a store of value, and practical strategies for real estate developers to incorporate Bitcoin into their investment portfolios while navigating MSTR's new Strike and Stride products.
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0:00.0 | You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free. |
0:10.0 | If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. |
0:16.0 | So it's all acting like safe haven. |
0:18.0 | I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their |
0:23.4 | currency, Bitcoin wins. |
0:25.4 | In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor. |
0:28.6 | I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin. |
0:31.6 | If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. |
0:34.6 | We're bringing in a housing expert to talk about the real estate market and Bitcoin, |
0:42.3 | corporate adoption and the crazy frenzy that's going on right now in public markets. |
0:49.3 | Leon, welcome back to the show. |
0:51.3 | Thanks for having you back. |
0:53.3 | It was great seeing you even though it was briefly in Vegas last week. I caught you |
0:57.8 | literally as I was running to the airport off the stage. |
1:02.0 | Yeah. And, uh, look, and pull that back up because I think this is a good |
1:07.1 | jumping off point. We'll start with like a personal story I'm currently in the |
1:11.2 | middle of a move right now but decided to rent a house because I was looking at the |
1:18.6 | prices for housing and the places I'm looking to buy and they were they were too high |
1:22.8 | not only were they're too high we put a bid in on one house and it wound up going |
1:27.2 | a million dollars over asking and |
1:29.3 | i think over here in the united states this is a big topic of discussion right now which is the |
1:35.6 | real estate market feels a little topy prices are still very high very sticky rates are still very |
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