625: Loving Our Christian Nationalist Neighbors with Caleb Campbell
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
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🗓️ 10 July 2024
⏱️ 94 minutes
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Summary
It’s one thing to fight against a heresy, but what about the people caught in its grasp? Caleb Campbell’s new book, “Disarming Leviathan,” argues Christian Nationalism is an idolatrous, anti-Christian movement, but that we ought to take a gentle, loving, and missional posture toward our friends and neighbors following it. Also this week, Ronald Reagan often said America was a shinning “city upon a hill.” Derwin Gray joins Skye and Kaitlyn to discuss the phrase, its original context in the Sermon on the Mount, and how Puritan colonists used it very differently than modern politicians. Plus, what’s behind all of the hot A.I. images of Jesus?
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0:00 - Intro
1:18 - Show Starts
3:18 - Theme Song
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5:52 - Responding to Feedback on Debate Coverage
12:26 - Shining City on a Hill
19:42 - Guiding People Away from Idolatry
30:36 - Perfect Love Casts Out Fear
34:41 - Hot A.I. Jesus
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51:49 - Interview
53:57 - Why did Campbell write about Christian Nationalism?
1:15:15 - Practical Advice
1:23:53 - What About Flipping Tables?
1:33:14 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
Is America a City on a Hill or a Nation on the Precipice?
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/opinion/american-exceptionalism-reagan-biden-trump.html
Hot AI Jesus is Huge on Facebook
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/06/hot-jesus-ai/678814/
Other resources:
Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor by Caleb Campbell: https://www.ivpress.com/disarming-leviathan
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. It's one thing to fight against a heresy, but what about all the people caught in its grasp? |
| 0:07.0 | Caleb Campbell's new book, Disarming Leviathan, argues that Christian nationalism is an idolatrous anti-Christian movement, |
| 0:14.5 | but that we ought to take a gentle, loving, and even missional posture |
| 0:18.5 | towards our friends and neighbors who are following it. |
| 0:21.5 | Also this week, Ronald Reagan used to say that America was a |
| 0:24.6 | shining city on a hill. Derwin Gray joins Caitlin and me to discuss the |
| 0:29.2 | phrase its origin in the sermon on the mount and how Puritan colonist used it very differently |
| 0:34.5 | than modern politicians. All of that? Plus what's behind all of the hot AI images of |
| 0:40.6 | Jesus on Facebook. |
| 0:42.6 | Before we get started, we recorded a bonus interview segment exclusively for Holy |
| 0:46.8 | Post Plus subscribers this week. |
| 0:49.0 | A listener asked us about Project 2025, the conservative plan to fundamentally reshape the federal government |
| 0:55.6 | if Trump is reelected. |
| 0:57.4 | Durwin, Caitlin, and I talk about whether we think this is a real threat or is it just |
| 1:01.7 | an empty conspiracy theory and how it's being used to scare |
| 1:05.1 | voters. |
| 1:06.4 | So to get access to that bonus segment, you need to sign up to Holy Post Plus. |
| 1:10.9 | You can learn more about how to do that at holy post.com. All right here is |
| 1:15.3 | episode 625. Hey everyone welcome back to the holy post it's sky joining me is |
| 1:21.6 | Caitlin's chest hi Caitlin chess hi Caitlin hi sky back in front of your |
| 1:25.4 | bookshelf how's your summer going good yeah mostly I mean I feel like I just |
| 1:30.0 | keep doing a lot of complaining about German but it's so hard and it's not fun and so that's |
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