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The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

623: Stu McLaren - Building Communities, Stories About Transformation, A World-Class Onboarding Process, & The Business Model of The Future

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

Ryan Hawk

Careers, Management, Business

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

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This is brought to you by Insight Global. If you need to hire 1 person, hire a team of people, or transform your business through Talent or Technical Services, Insight Global's team of 30,000 people around the world have the hustle and grit to deliver.

www.InsightGlobal.com/LearningLeader

Stu McLaren helps leaders and all types of business owners transform their knowledge, expertise, and influence into recurring revenue by launching, growing, and scaling membership businesses. He’s the author of PREDICTABLE PROFITS - Transform Your Business from One-Off Sales to Recurring Revenue with Memberships and Subscriptions.

Notes:

  • People come for the content, they stay for the community. People want to feel a sense of belonging. This has been hard-wired in us from many years ago. We want to be part of a group. In the old days, this was the only way to survive. We have not outgrown that need and the feeling of being a part of something bigger than ourselves.
  • Life advice: Listen to your gut instinct and embrace the unknown. You are not ever going to know how it’s going to pan out. You have to keep taking that next step. And I loved the story of the lengthy process of adopting his son Sam. The raw emotion in Stu’s eyes as he told that story was awesome. Watch this on YouTube and you can see. Take the next step. Keep going. You’re not going to know how it will go. Embrace that. And keep going.
  • Cody Burch Story – In October, Cody’s dad was diagnosed with leukemia. Cody had been sitting with the idea of a membership. He saw the fear in his dad’s eyes that he was nervous about the financial part of it. “I wanted to take that financial fear away from him. Within a few weeks of launching my membership, I had a few hundred members, and I was making thousands of dollars per month." “The more we make, the more we can give. The more we make, the more we can help.” Stu says that all the time
    • Create “super surprises” for your friends. Create an amazing experience for them.
  • Online communities must be one of the three:
    • Can I solve an ongoing problem? Weight loss, dog training
    • Can you teach a skill?
    • Can you make someone’s life easier? Provide teachers with lesson plans
  • You don’t need a big platform to get started. Have founding members. Float the idea that you’re thinking of it. Momentum starts with movement. Get going.
  • Pay close attention to onboarding. The first few days are EVERYTHING. His daughter’s new school was “the best school ever” because she met one friend on the first day. Help them build one meaningful relationship within the first few days. Connect them. Proactively do this.
  • Sales is the most noble profession in the world. Everything must be sold. Stu learned from John Childers, but couldn’t do it like him. So he just told stories about transformation.
  • People don’t care about the “stuff.” They care about the outcome. They care about the transformation.
  • The objection matrix - Match every objection with a story of someone who had the same objection and overcame it. Use stories.
  • The importance of building a membership around transformation, not just content. While many focus on delivering endless content. By focusing on helping people achieve meaningful outcomes, rather than overwhelming them with information, leaders can build stronger communities, improve retention, and deliver real value that keeps members coming back.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Sales are the lifeblood of every business.

0:03.7

And unfortunately, most businesses hope that customers are going to come back and buy from them again.

0:08.9

We don't want to build a business on hope.

0:11.8

We want to build it on certainty.

0:13.6

And when you have recurring revenue coming into the business, it creates certainty.

0:20.2

This episode is brought to you by Insight Global.

0:24.1

I love the leadership team and the people at Insight Global.

0:27.8

Insight Global is a staffing and professional services company dedicated to being the light to the world around them.

0:35.1

If you need to hire one person, hire a team of people, or transform your business through

0:40.1

talent or technical services, Insight Global's team of 30,000 people around the world have

0:47.2

the hustle and grit to deliver.

0:50.1

Hiring can be tough, but hiring the right person can be magic.

0:55.2

Visit Insightglobal.com slash learning leader today to learn more.

0:59.8

That's Insightglobal.com slash learning leader.

1:06.6

Welcome to The Learning Leader Show.

1:10.0

I am your host, Ryan Hawk. Thank you so much for being here. Text Hawk to 666866 to become part of Mindful Monday. You, along with tens of thousands of other learning leaders from all over the world will receive a carefully curated email

1:28.4

for me each Monday morning to help you start your week all right.

1:32.6

You'll also receive details about how our book, The Score That Matters, will help you

1:37.6

become a more effective leader.

1:39.6

Text Hawk to 66866.

1:42.9

Now on to tonight's featured leaders. Stu McLaren helps leaders and all types of

1:50.2

business owners transform their knowledge, expertise, and influence into recurring revenue by launching,

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