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The Holy Post

622: How Ideological Purity is Killing Churches with Ryan Burge

The Holy Post

Phil Vischer

Skyejethani, Society & Culture, Philvischer, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, 226012, Christiantaylor, Atheism, Veggietales

4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2024

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

Remember when churches were seeker-sensitive? The goal was to grow by welcoming newcomers, skeptics, and non-believers. But now it seems some evangelical churches and denominations are more worried about ideological purity than outreach. Sociologist, political scientists, and pastor Ryan Burge is back to talk about the self-defeating trend toward subtraction rather than addition in the church. Also this week, the Southern Baptists decide not to ban all women pastors…yet. Megan Basham claims evangelical leaders aren’t selling out to conservative constituents, but to gain the approval of liberal elites. Death cafes open in L.A., and the Swiss are making tiny computers from brain cells. What could possibly go wrong?

0:00 - Intro

1:18 - Show Starts

3:14 - Theme Song

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5:58 - Democracy Betrays News of the Butt

6:38 - What Could Possibly Go Wrong with Swiss Brain-Computers

13:02 - SBC Law Amendment Denied Ratification

20:33 - Baptist Church Conservative Resurgence

25:03 - Being a Cultural War Symbol Rather Than a Person

30:20 - Shepherds for Sale and How Everyone Has Economic Benefit

36:37 - The Temptation to Look Down on Others

41:55 - Modern Death Cafes in Los Angeles

44:28 - Sleeping in a Room with a Casket

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52:40 - Interview

59:56 - American Behavior Changing Faster Than Their Beliefs

1:05:43 - The Disappearance of The Christian Left

1:09:22 - Strict Churches vs Moderate Churches

1:22:10 - The Nicene Creed, Doctrine, and Dogma

1:31:53 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Swiss Startup Connects 16 Human Mini-Brains to Create Low Energy ‘Biocomputer’:

https://www.sciencealert.com/swiss-startup-connects-16-human-mini-brains-to-create-low-energy-biocomputer

SBC Law Amendment Vote:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/on-religion/an-unexpected-turn-in-the-evangelical-culture-wars

Modern Death Cafes in LA:

https://www.latimes.com/lifestyle/story/2024-06-12/death-cafes-los-angeles-grieving-discussion-group

Other resources:

Cafeteria Catholicism: https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/cafeteria-catholicism

Americans Dropping Out of Everything:

https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/dropping-out-of-everything

Most Americans are Still Christians:

https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/most-americans-are-still-christians

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Holy Post. Do you remember when churches were seeker sensitive?

0:04.6

The goal was to grow by welcoming newcomers, skeptics, and even non-believers.

0:09.6

But now it seems some evangelical churches and denominations are far more worried about ideological

0:15.6

purity than outreach.

0:18.7

Sociologist and political scientist Ryan Burge is back to talk about the self-defeating trend toward subtraction rather than addition

0:25.4

in the church.

0:27.1

Also this week, the Southern Baptist decide not to ban all women pastors yet. Then Megan Basham claims evangelical leaders aren't

0:35.0

selling out to conservative constituents but to gain the approval of

0:39.0

liberal elites. Death cafes are opening in LA and the Swiss are making tiny computers from brain cells.

0:47.2

What could possibly go wrong?

0:49.1

Beyond this episode, we have a lot of fun going on at Holy Post Plus.

0:52.8

A new episode of getting schooled by Caitlin Shess is dropping today

0:56.6

about what we should do when we discover a brilliant theologian is actually a sinful

1:01.3

disaster. And every Friday there's a brand new SkyPod episode.

1:05.4

This week it's a full hour of me answering your questions.

1:09.1

To join the Holy Post Plus community and support the work we're doing, be sure to visit holy post.

1:14.5

All right, here is episode 622.

1:18.5

Hey there, this is Phil Vizier. Welcome back to the Holy Post podcast.

1:21.2

I'm here with Caitlin Shess. here with Caitlin. Hi Caitlin. I Phil.

1:24.7

Hi, Caitlin. And not Sky Jotani, not Mike Erie, not Caitlin Beatty.

1:31.3

Esau Macaulay.

1:33.4

Hi, E-Sall.

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