I, like many, many people, was introduced to this lovely, lovely woman by a social media video,

walking through her house, opening up her Bible to Matthew 25, and reading the passage about caring for the least of these.

In response to a comment that said, whoa, be careful there, I am happily maga and absolutely love Jesus.

We are exhausted about liberal nonsense.

And as Jen Hamilton read that passage about caring for the sick and the hungry and the stranger and the prisoner, she simply

said at the end, well, that sounds pretty liberal to me. And in response to that, Maga called her

work at the hospital she works at, tried to get her fired, called the nursing

board, and tried to get her nursing license revoked, to the point that when she spoke at a medical

conference later, she had to have private security for her safety. And she's here with us today.

Jen Hamilton is a labor and delivery nurse who has, of course, a social media following of over

four million unique users.

She's been both on ER and obstetrics nurse for over a decade, and most of that has been at

the bedside caring for families and welcoming babies into the world. Through her platforms and her work,

she's passionate about improving outcomes for families, dismantling systemic racism and underlying

misogyny that exists in OBGYN care and strongly

believes that the path to better outcome starts with empathetic, timely, and compassionate communication.

Jen and I both share an alma mater in Liberty University. We also talk about in this interview

about how some of our views changed growing up in conservative Christian families, going to a

conservative Christian school, going to a conservative

Christian school, and how the world can look better when we have a lot more empathy and a lot more

for compassion for the humans around us that may be different than us, believe different than us,

have a different life than we do, because ultimately it's very hard to hate from an embrace.

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