62. Taking Dirty Energy To Court with James Thornton and Dr. Tara Shine
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
Persephonica
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🗓️ 24 July 2020
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Summary
Since the adoption of the Paris Agreement, legal systems around the world are beginning to witness the power of citizens, organizations, and businesses fighting legal battles to protect Earth. But who's side is the law on? This week we talk about how the tides have turned in favor of Earth in court with CEO of ClientEarth, James Thornton. We hear about how ClientEarth is mending the relationship between humanity and the Earth through the law, and James shares some amazing news from China regarding citizens being able to sue the Chinese government in environmental cases. Stick around for the amazing story of how €30 shut down a coal mine.
And our special guest co-host this week is Dr. Tara Shine. Science and policy adviser, explorer, tv presenter, and author (to name a few), Tara joins us to discuss the intersection of human rights and environmental rights, and intros us to her exhaustibly-researched-yet-incredibly-practical book, 'How To Save Your Planet One Object At A Time'.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Outrage and Optimism. I'm Christina Fiegeis. |
| 0:16.7 | I'm Paul Dickinson. |
| 0:18.2 | Tom is still away this week so we are delighted to be joined by another surprise co-host. |
| 0:25.0 | Hi, I'm Tara Shine. |
| 0:28.0 | Yay! |
| 0:29.0 | This week we talk about climate change litigation |
| 0:32.0 | and we speak to James Thornton, CEO of |
| 0:34.6 | client earth. We will also enjoy a musical performance from Mystery Jets. |
| 0:39.6 | Thanks for being here. So Tara, how wonderful to have you on as our co-host today? |
| 0:47.0 | Tara, how wonderful to have you on as our co-host today. Tara you've been a good friend and a warrior in the battle of many |
| 0:59.6 | negotiation topics throughout many many years. |
| 1:04.3 | I'm almost going to say for, I don't even want to put a number. |
| 1:07.5 | Can you put a number on that? |
| 1:09.4 | Oh, well it's over 20 years in this world, Christina and I was going to say 20 years exactly |
| 1:15.8 | I thought 20 years and then I thought maybe that's an exaggeration but it is 20 years |
| 1:21.1 | amazing but really no I'm still young because my first cop was in |
| 1:26.2 | 2003 in Milan and yeah so I don't go right back to the very beginning like I think you |
| 1:32.3 | might sadly that is true. |
| 1:36.4 | What year was that what year was the what was your first cop Christina I've never asked you that |
| 1:40.8 | well actually I started before the cops before cop one. What? Yes. There were |
| 1:48.0 | several meetings before cop one and I started then. Anyway we don't have to dig so deeply into ancient history here. |
| 1:56.3 | Tara, it is so wonderful to have you on, especially because you have been one of the true thinkers and worker bees, not just thinking, but really |
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