You're listening to the A Beautiful Mess Podcast. It's no secret that we love the

inigram and we found it incredibly useful and helpful.

This week we're diving into Iniagram 101,

so if you've never doubled, this episode is perfect for you.

It's a starter pack.

We're joined this week by Ryan O'Neill, aka Sleeping at Last,

Ryan's one of my best friends, and he's the person who got me into Enigram in the

first place. He's kind of an expert, so we were excited to pick his brain.

This week's episode is sponsored by Grove Collaborative.

We'll chat more about them later in the episode.

So Ryan, a lot of people call Eniagram a cult,

and I feel like that makes you our cult leader.

How do you feel about this?

Wow, that's the first.

I've never been called that.

That's amazing.

Let's talk a little bit about why you got into anyagram which may also feed into

I just love to talk a little bit about why anyone like some people don't care or

they have that annoying friend who's like

talks about it too much or they see they've seen too many memes yeah the

enigram or they've had someone kind of uses as an excuse to not grow or to not be helpful or to you know something like that.

So you know why did you get into it and why would people generally want to care

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