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The Al Franken Podcast

62: Author Anne Nelson on the 60-year history of the vast right-wing shadow network

The Al Franken Podcast

The Al Franken Podcast

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4.67.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2022

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Nelson lays out how this all brought us to January 6th.

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. We've got a great one today, you know, for a change. And let me tell you why this is a good one for a change.

0:10.8

Because I have been watching the hearings. And they have completely surpassed my expectations, or at least surpass what I had feared.

0:20.6

I think that they have been devastating. Am I

0:24.4

shocked by anything? No. No revelation has shocked me because this is Trump. And how can you

0:32.7

possibly be shocked by anything about Donald Trump? Nothing anyone could say at these hearings about Donald Trump.

0:38.2

Nothing anyone could say at these hearings about Donald Trump could possibly shock me.

0:44.3

You know, and there are at least four more hearings.

0:49.1

Yes, Madam Co-chair, the actual makeshift gallows were the president's idea. Okay, that makes sense, sure.

0:59.4

Yeah, the president had the idea and asked me to get some reference material on gallows, and specifically a hangman's noose.

1:11.6

And I did that lickety split.

1:13.8

And he actually made a sketch of the gallows.

1:17.4

And he had Don Jr.

1:19.4

Take a photo of it on his iPhone and text it to Roger Stone,

1:24.7

who passed it on to the Oathkeepers.

1:27.9

Hmm.

1:28.9

Did you tell anybody about that?

1:31.4

No.

1:32.3

Not until I was interviewed by the committee staff, and one of them asked me if I knew

1:37.9

anything about the gallows.

1:40.3

And, you know, I was under oath.

1:43.5

And I'm sorry, but I usually don't depart from our plan line of questioning, but it just occurred to me, is there anything else odd that the president did or asked for in the lead up to January 6th that was telling about his state of mind?

1:59.0

Hmm, I'd like to consult my attorney who's sitting right here.

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