Welcome back. We have a great guest today, and Richard actually did quite a bit of work with him recently.

Rich, tell us about Michael here.

So, full disclosure, I wasn't aware of Michael before I wrote this, well, I, I, I edited a book that

makes it sound like I did all the work. I did nothing. I put it in an indesign. Michael was there.

You just, you just wrote it. So, I read the book as I was editing. I thought, this guy is,

is telling a great story. And oh, by the way, he happens to be

the producer of some of my favorite albums. So we have Michael Beinhorn, who has produced

super unknown. Everything that you love, basically. I've just got to get it out there as well.

This guy produced or worked on Rocket by Herbie Hancock.

I co-produced it.

Oh, dude.

And I co-wrote it.

Guys, this is the soundtrack of young Richard's youth.

When I went into my electro phase, Rocket is it. That is the...

Dude, who doesn't in their younger days, right? And I...

Fair enough.

I mean, Brian's still experiencing his. So, yeah. I'm still working on mine. I'm still working on mine. I cannot speak highly enough of the body of work you've done. So welcome, Michael. Thank you, sir. It's a real pleasure to have you here. So let's start at the beginning, seem sensible. Herbie Hancock, Rocket was one of your early, like, big breakthroughs, I guess.

Yeah, yeah, that's right.

So, honestly, I think that's probably one of the most sampled bit of scratch record ever, like, in hip-hop.

The scratch from that song has been used in nearly every important hip-hop song to date, I think.

Well, yeah, and one of the very happy coincidences about that is that I also created that sound.

Oh, wow.

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