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We've done several meta analyses.

Proteen does not cause kidney failure.

I think it's important to realize that you're not going to make your bones brittle or weak

by having a high protein diet, but again it's still important to get calcium and

Vitamin D dialed in because they're the two main bone supportive nutrients for

sure. But I think people have become very polarized in their views and it's become now a battle of philosophy rather than science.

But the reality is that if you're eating those plant-based things,

you just got to eat a little bit more protein.

I don't have a horse in the race and everything, but I would have said 20 years ago,

protein is king, it's super important, you got to get it, you got to eat more, and now it's sort of like,

nah, it's a thin slice on top. You bake the cake, in other words, you make the muscle by going to the gym by lifting weights and doing it regularly.

If you really want to tweak things, then eat a little bit more protein,

I would say a little bit, like twice the RDA, so so 1.6 so it's not a trivial amount it is more

than is recommended but what it adds is it's a layer of icing on the cake and that

really pisses people off. Stu you have this great analogy comparing muscle to a brick wall.

I'll have you walk me through that.

Yeah, I don't know if it's a great analogy, but it's one that works.

You know, muscle is made up of bricks.

There are 20 bricks.

There are 20 amino acids that make up protein and so you know the bricks build the wall. I think the

analogy is pretty apt because you know you look at some walls and they're just built they look great and then you know a couple

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