615: Taylor Swift’s Sacrilege & the Future of the Republican Party with Peter Wehner
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.6 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 1 May 2024
⏱️ 95 minutes
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Summary
Swifties are celebrating the record-breaking release of two new albums, but some conservative Christians are not happy. They’re accusing Taylor Swift of mocking Christianity and promoting witchcraft. Our resident Swiftie, Kaitlyn Schiess, explains the controversy. Then, former presidential speechwriter and contributor to The Atlantic, Pete Wehner, talks with Skye about the future of the Republican Party. Will the Trump spell ever break? Also this week—the end of America’s monoculture, and how dumb were dinosaurs?
00 - Intro
1:03 - Show Starts
2:15 - Theme Song
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4:50 - Update on Phil
6:08 - Dinosaurs—Were They Smart?
13:00 - Is Taylor Swift Mocking Christians?
15:12 - Taylor Swift’s Bohemian Mishmash
18:12 - Artistic vs Political Usage of Biblical Language
23:13 - Taylor Swift and Kids
23:23 - Children and Public Spaces
31:02 - Portrayal vs Endorsement
35:18 - Everything is a Cult Now and 20th Century Communication Technology
40:17 - What Even is Mainstream?
44:27 - Labels and the Good Samaritan
50:14 - Choice and Community
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58:13 - Interview
1:03:48 - What Radicalized the Republican Voter Base?
1:08:25 - Where There Signs 20 Years Ago That Radicalization Was Coming?
1:11:30 - Pro-Life Republicans Changing Their Stances?
1:22:20 - What’s the Future for the GOP?
1:33:58 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
T. Rex Was Probably About As Intelligent as a Crocodile
https://www.popsci.com/science/t-rex-intelligence/
Taylor Swift’s Religious Imagery for a Spiritually Syncretic Era
Taylor Swift Mocks Christianity in Her New Album
https://www.movieguide.org/news-articles/taylor-swift-mocks-christianity-in-her-new-album.html
Everything’s a Cult Now
Other resources:
The Death of Politics: How to Heal Our Frayed Republic After Trump: https://a.co/d/2ute7Ua
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. Swifties are celebrating the record-breaking release of two new albums, |
| 0:05.4 | but some conservative Christians are not happy. They're accusing Taylor Swift of mocking |
| 0:10.0 | Christianity and promoting witchcraft. |
| 0:13.1 | Our resident Swiftie Caitlin Shess explains the controversy. |
| 0:16.7 | Then former presidential speech writer and contributor to the Atlantic, Pete Wainer, is |
| 0:21.0 | back, to talk to me about the future of the Republican Party. |
| 0:24.3 | Will the Trump spell ever break? |
| 0:26.4 | Also this week, the end of America's monoculture and how dumb were dinosaurs. |
| 0:32.0 | A few announcements before we start. |
| 0:34.0 | First, we had to trim a little bit of this episode featuring me, Caitlin, and Mike Erie, |
| 0:38.0 | but we've posted that extra bit about seven minutes |
| 0:41.0 | exclusively for our Holy Post Plus subscribers. |
| 0:44.0 | There's also a new Skypot episode coming this week where I talked to Shane Claiborne about the |
| 0:47.8 | Israel-Palestine conflict and pacifism, and Caitlin has a new getting-schooled |
| 0:52.4 | episode about cessationism. |
| 0:54.0 | All of this is exclusively for Holy Post plus subscribers and if you want to sign up go to |
| 0:58.7 | Holy Post.com to learn more. All right here is episode 615. Hey everyone it's sky welcome back to I was |
| 1:06.0 | gonna say the sky pod but it's not I'm I'm not doing the sky pod I'm doing the |
| 1:10.3 | flagship Holy Post show welcome welcome to the Holy Post. |
| 1:12.6 | Joining me is Caitlin Chas. |
| 1:14.5 | Hi, Caitlin. |
| 1:15.8 | Hi Sky. |
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