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Okay. price and coverage match limited by state law. Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile.

This is Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor,

writer-producer of criminal minds, and Bluebeard on Audible. And with me today is

Kathy Canning-Mallow, retired FBI agent and FBI Profiler. And we're also the co-hosts of FBI Profilers

Criminal Archives on Audible. So we are here to do a very special episode a crossover episode

with me and who are you uh i am bob rough the host of the truth and justice podcast and the

executive producer of the oxygen or i'm doing like you guys do of of the auction original docu-series, the Forgotten West Memphis 3. Absolutely. And that was a great,

that was an awesome docu-series that we did together. But Bob, you were also the very first guest

that we ever had on Real Crime Profile. And that was in our studios in L.A. And we actually

began the podcast with you. We were actually sitting there eating pizza, as you said earlier,

coming up with the name. And the reason why we chose real crime profile rather than true

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