It's time for episode 613 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay, recorded Wednesday, July 9th, 2025.

Clockwise, four people, four tech podcast where you just need to count to 10, 180 times, and we're done.

My name is Dan Moore, and I'm joined across the internet by my good friend, my pal, my co-host, the one, the only.

Micah Sargent.

How are you doing today, Micah?

In your head. Your head. Oh, oh, in my head. Oh, in my head. Okay. That's fine. Hi, Dan. I'm doing well.

Oh, sorry, in my head. Yeah. So my kid can only count as high as 20, so I feel like, you know, we all have our crosses to bear. All right.

This is, of course, the show where we invite on two fantastic guests to talk about four tech topics to my left this week.

It is ImujaPedia founder and the only writer at Mobile Tech Journal.

It's Jeremy.

It's Jeremy, I've been pumped up the running order.

I don't think I've ever been a second guest, so I'm very excited.

What's of pressure. You know what you did.

Oh, and to my left. See, it's ruined the show. I was so busy counting. Like it doesn't know

what to do. I don't know what to do. To my left, chief podcaster at podfeet.com. It's the wonderful Allison Sheridan.

Welcome back to the show, Allison.

And your cleanup hitter here to save the day.

Oh, yes, indeed.

Batting forth is a good place to be in this show.

All right, let me kick things off.

Apple says public-vaded versions of its new software updates are coming in July.

I'm checking the calendar, it's July.

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