This episode of Retronauts is brought to you by Squarespace, the all-purpose DIY website platform for pros and beginners alike. This weekend, retronauts, in the words of the poet Inperte, I see red hurts my head. Oh, yeah. Hi everyone welcome to retronauts. I am Jeremy Parish your host this episode, revisiting familiar territory.

We haven't been there in a couple of years, but it's always worth revisiting an old favorite topic.

And this topic is Virtual Boy because I wrote the greatest book ever about Virtual Boy and we have with me this episode, the gentleman who have written the second

greatest book about Virtual Boy ever.

My question for both of you is, first, how dare you?

No, we have a familiar person.

To Retronauts' listener is joining this episode,

but also a newcomer.

So if you could please introduce yourself, person who has never been on this show before.

Hi, thanks for the, thanks for the welcome, thanks for the invite. My name is Jose Zagal.

I'm a professor at the University of Utah, or I teach and do research in the division of games. So we have a lot of students who are interested in working in the games industry learning more about games as a form of culture and also interested in making them and so that's basically my day job.

All right and of course the other person here calling in from the great city of Raleigh, North Carolina, just a couple of miles from where I am.

That's true.

I'm Ben Edwards.

I'm currently the AI reporter at Ars Technica.

So that's my, and co-author of this awesome new book which is called

Who wants to introduce it? I'm open to either one of you as you can see I I dress for the occasion I've got my red and black eyeglasses on.

Cool. Can you see in stereo out of those? I can't actually my eyes are terrible which is of course why it's ironic that I did a complete retrospective series on Virtual Boy, because I'm terrible at seeing Virtual Boy.

Yeah, I remember you mentioned that a depth perception issue.

Yep, good times.

Fascinating.

Well, the book is called Seeing Red Nintendo's Virtual Boy,

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