611 | Epic Waters Angling with Steve Morrow - Chinook Salmon, Togiak River Lodge
Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast
Dave Stewart
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🗓️ 29 May 2024
⏱️ 74 minutes
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Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/611
Presented By: Togiak River Lodge
Tune in to today's episode and get an inside look into Epic Waters Angling with Steve Morrow. Steve has been putting together epic trips all around the world, and he's here to tell us about their program for king salmon in Alaska and how you can take advantage of it.
In this episode, you'll discover what it takes to find, hook, and land your first Chinook salmon on the fly! You'll also know the perfect timing for fishing and the best spots where fish will likely hold.
Show Notes with Steve Morrow on Epic Waters Angling.
I'm excited to put this episode together today for several reasons. First, I'm heading back to Alaska, and Chinook is definitely on my mind.
And today, we've got a real expert joining us who knows all about Chinook salmon and spey fishing. Plus, add Alaska. Does it get any better than that?
03:18 - Steve was obsessed with fishing of all kinds and spent a lot of time at tackle shops when he was young. Eventually, he worked at Michael & Young Fly Shop, where he learned from shop guys that he admired.
05:33 - Epic Waters Angling offers fly fishing trips to challenging spots in North America. These trips make tough fishing locations easier and more fun for anglers.
Chinook Fishing in Alaska
07:25 - Steve describes the experience of fishing in Togiak and how it's different from fishing in British Columbia.
He finds Togiak exciting because it's like solving a fishing puzzle with its unique features. Here are some key puzzle pieces for targeting Chinook salmon successfully:
Timing the tides is very important when catching Chinook salmon. Knowing when the tides come in rivers like the Togiak and the Kanektok helps catch more fish.
Aside from the tide, Steve says figuring out how quickly the fish moves upstream can help you position yourself effectively.
Choosing the Right Gear for Chinook Fishing
Rods
17:00 - When gearing up for Chinook salmon fishing, Steve prefers using spey fishing gear for easy casting and reduced shoulder strain compared to single-hand rods.
Steve recommends rods between 13 and 15 feet long, from 8 wt to 10 wt. His number one rod is a 9140 Nom rod.
Lines
23:00 - Steve uses Skagit lines exclusively to target Chinook salmon due to their effectiveness in delivering maximum payload. Here are his recommendations:
Rio Skagit Max Launch
GameChanger
Sink Tips
27:16 - Two of the most important sink tips you should have for Steve are 10 feet of T-17 and 10 feet of T-14.
He also suggests having 10 feet of T-11 for specific situations and a couple of lighter sink tips, like the MOW tips.
Togiak River Lodge Experience
33:24 - Steve talks about the fishing strategies at Togiak Lodge and the overall lodge experience. They spend time observing fish behavior and trends upon arrival at Togiak Lodge.
It takes a few days to understand where the fish are located and how they behave in current conditions.
Leaders
37:23 - Steve's ideal leader length is three to four feet. He uses a 20-lb Maxima across the board because he finds it reliable for steelhead and Chinook.
Fly Selection
38:32 - Steve's go-to fly for Chinook in Togiak is the pink Reverse Marabou. Other effective colors include blue and chartreuse, black and chartreuse, black and blue, and blue and silver.
Conservation Efforts at Epic Waters Angling
1:02:00 The Coast to Clouds Conservation Foundation is a nonprofit under Epic Waters that collects a conservation surcharge from clients to fund impactful projects. They also collaborate closely with the Native Fish Society.
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/611
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| 0:00.0 | Are you interested to find out how and when to mend correctly to get your fly down to the fish? |
| 0:08.1 | Would you like to discover which spayline tips you need for hooking up with king salmon? |
| 0:13.1 | And would you like to find out why a 14 or 15 foot spay rod is better than a 15 foot rod when chasing large salmon. Today I've got a guest who |
| 0:23.1 | has been putting together epic trips all around the world and today you're going to get an inside |
| 0:27.1 | seat into what their program looks like for king salmon in Alaska and how you can take advantage |
| 0:32.2 | looking ahead. This is the wet fly swing podcast where I show you the best places to travel to for |
| 0:37.1 | fly fishing, how to find the best places to travel to for fly fishing, |
| 0:37.8 | how to find the best resources and tools to prepare for that big trip, and what you can do to give back to the fish species you love. Hey, I'm Dave, host of the wet fly swing podcast. I've been fly fishing since I was a little kid. I grew up in a little fly shop and have created one of the largest fly fishing podcasts in this country. I've also interviewed more of the greatest fly anglers than just about anyone in the world. |
| 0:59.1 | Today, Stephen Morrill from Epic Waters Angling is going to break down spay fishing for Chinook salmon. |
| 1:06.2 | After today, you will know the three big puzzle pieces defining, hooking, and landing your first Chinook on a fly. |
| 1:13.1 | You'll hear how to know the timing of fish in the river and tides and where do the fish hold. |
| 1:19.2 | You'll find out which tips you should have in your satchel to reach these fish. |
| 1:23.6 | And the number one best color by far that you need when heading up north to Alaska, |
| 1:29.0 | and this applies to other species as well. |
| 1:31.3 | Plus, you're going to get some insight into the feel of the hookup of a king, |
| 1:35.1 | and how best to manipulate your flyline to get it in the zone. |
| 1:39.3 | We're heading north into the togeac river system with Epic Waters Angling. |
| 1:46.3 | Here we go, Stephen Morrell with Epic Waters Angling. Here we go, Stephen Morrell from Epicwatersangling.com. How you doing, Stephen? I'm doing great, thanks. How are you? Great. I'm |
| 1:54.8 | excited to put this episode together today for a couple of reasons. I'm going to be heading back up to Alaska and and Chinook is on my mind |
| 2:04.0 | and you are an expert in a couple of things I think the Chinook is definitely top of your mind and then |
| 2:09.2 | also the spay I think those are two big things bringing those together and then Alaska it seems like |
| 2:14.0 | that's the triple whammy is are those things when you talk Alaska, spay, and Chinook? |
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