From Relay, this is Upgrade, episode 610.

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My name is Mike Hurley, and I am am joined and I'm happy to be joined by Jason

Snell. Hi Jason Snell. Hi, Mike Hurley. It's good to be back on a normal episode of Upgrade.

Yeah, I missed doing a dramatic reading. We'll talk about that a little bit more and a bit.

But I have a Snell talk question for you who says, Bruce Ben who says, with Jason's love of space and the Artemis 2 launch, what are some of Jason's favorite space blogs and reporters that people should be following? And I also just wanted to put this in here in case you wanted to just talk briefly about the Artemis 2. Yeah, sure. Very exciting. They're going to the moon. As we record this, they're going by the moon. Like today, today is moon day. They're going to fly by the moon and then come back to Earth.

I used to do a podcast with Stephen Hackett called Liftoff. People sending in messages saying,

are you going to bring Liftoff back?

And it's funny because I,

you witnessed me many times

refuse to declare a liftoff retired

and say that maybe we would bring it back sometime

and Stephen would,

you know,

check the box in the CMS. many times refused to declare a liftoff retired and say that maybe we would bring it back

sometime and Stephen would, you know, check the box in the CMS that said retired and I'd uncheck it.

Yeah.

And I found a strange thing when this all was happening.

I, uh, within me, where I thought within myself and I thought, no, actually I'm, I'm also

fine that it is retired.

Okay.

Uh, sorry everybody who liked it, but I have, I have, I have, I have let it go.

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