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Geek's Guide to the Galaxy - A Science Fiction Podcast

610. Megan McArdle, host of Reasonably Optimistic

Geek's Guide to the Galaxy - A Science Fiction Podcast

David Barr Kirtley

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4.5 • 1K Ratings

šŸ—“ļø 8 January 2026

ā±ļø 65 minutes

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Summary

Washington PostĀ columnist Megan McArdle joins us to discuss her favorite science fiction and her new podcastĀ Reasonably Optimistic. Topics discussed:Ā Robert Heinlein and libertarianism, working in book publishing,Ā Lord of the RingsĀ andĀ Rendezvous with Rama, Peter Suderman and video games,Ā Dungeons & DragonsĀ andĀ Call of Cthulhu, Megan’s science fiction novel, the state of book publishing, explaining science fiction to women,Ā DuneĀ and artificial intelligence, Megan’s podcast and optimism. Ad-free episodes are available to our paid supporters over at patreon.com/geeks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm David Bar-Curtley, author of the book Save Me Please and other stories, and welcome to episode 610 of Geek's Guide to the Galaxy.

0:27.0

Our guest today is Megan McArdle. She's an opinion writer at the Washington Post, and her articles have also appeared in The Economist, The Atlantic, The Guardian, and Salon.

0:39.0

She's also the author of the nonfiction book The Upside of Down, while failing well is the key to success. And in this

0:44.8

interview, we'll be discussing her favorite science fiction, and her new podcast, reasonably

0:49.4

optimistic, which tries to provide a more hopeful outlook on the future.

0:56.4

And now here's her interview with Megan McArdle.

0:59.2

All right, so we're here with Megan McArdle.

0:59.9

Welcome to the show.

1:01.7

Thanks for having me.

1:09.7

Okay, so a few years ago, you listed Golden Age Science Fiction as one of five topics that you can talk about for 30 minutes with zero prep.

1:12.6

Now we're going to test me.

1:15.0

We're not going to test you.

1:17.4

I'm just curious to know, though.

1:20.4

How did you first get interested in Golden Age science fiction?

1:28.6

When I was eight years old, my father, it was my eighth birthday, January 29th, 1981.

1:31.7

I got two books from my father.

1:38.2

They were Sargasso of Space by Andre Norton and Tunnel in the Sky by Robert Heinland.

1:47.4

And while I liked Sargasso of Space, the Robert Heinlein started me on a lifelong love affair with first Robert Heinlein juveniles.

1:52.1

My school library had some, and I read all of them, and then I discovered more.

2:04.7

I've read everything I could get my hands on by him, and I think the last thing I read when I went for completion was the unpleasant profession of Jonathan Hogue.

2:13.7

Although I then later, after he died, you know, unpublished stuff that had not been put out during his lifetime became available.

2:22.3

Like his amazing story of traveling around the world with Ginny, his wife in, I believe,

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