I dreamt that you were twisting through seven suns of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hi, everybody.

This is Veronica Valley.

And this is Chip Summers.

Welcome back to the Soberfall podcast.

It's great to be back, actually, after our kind of summer break was

about eight weeks. So I'm really kind of getting back into the saddle of doing podcasts and

stuff. Yeah. I don't feel as if I've had an eight week break, but I know what you mean. Yeah,

it's good to be back. I think we have a really interesting topic today. We run group coaching programs. We just finished with one and we're going to be studying another one soon. And it was just something that popped up in one of the sessions where someone said they're going to meetings right now and they're doing different things and how helpful it is. But like they want to be sober, but they don't want to have to focus on alcohol and not drinking for the rest of their lives.

And I kind of thought, oh, that's really interesting because that comes up.

And we should do an episode.

So this episode is called, do I have to do this recovery thing forever?

Okay.

Before we get started, a few things I want to let you guys know about.

So this is your last chance to sign up for the Sober Kickstart. Sober Kickstart is going to be taking place this Saturday at the time of when this recording gets released. And that will be the last sober kickstart we do of the year. We won't be doing another one this year. So it's your last chance to get in front of us, do a workshop with us. It's a live event. You don't have

to attend live. If you can't, if the date and time don't work for you, don't worry. You will get

the recording. It's a two and a half hour workshop's pretty in depth. There's a lot of content there.

And it's really for people who are at the beginning of their journey, you've either stopped drinking or you are trying to stop, want to stop, you've stopped started and you're stuck.

It's definitely for the people who are stuck.

And we just have our therapist superpower super skills that can give you the kind of stuff you need to get unstuck because that's really

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