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The Psychology Podcast

61: Creativity, Courageous Vulnerability and Wholehearted Living

The Psychology Podcast

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Social Sciences, Science

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2016

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

We are especially grateful (and giddy) to be sharing this episode with our listeners! Brene Brown's work really gels with our core interests here on The Psychology Podcast, and the resulting conversation contains some enthusiastic and empirically informed banter that is sure to inform and delight. We geek out over some counter-intuitive findings, like how incredibly compassionate people have a tendency to set the most boundaries and say "no." We discuss the power of being vulnerable and how the data suggests that it is one of the best predictors of courage. We chat about how trying to be cool is the enemy of truly being cool, how we can enrich future generation’s learning with wholehearted living, and how ignoring our creativity defies our essential nature. It’s ~45 minutes of two experts in the field sharing data, and themselves, and it’s one of our favorite episodes yet. We’re making a real effort to improve the show for our listeners and would hugely appreciate 15 seconds of your time filling out this short survey: http://survey.libsyn.com/psychologypodcast (Email is not required). --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/the-psychology-podcast/support

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the psychology podcast with Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman where we give

0:04.5

you insights into the mind, brain, behavior, and creativity. Each episode will

0:08.9

feature a new guest who will stimulate your mind and give you a greater

0:11.6

understanding of yourself, others, and the world we live in.

0:14.7

Hopefully we'll also provide a glimpse into human possibility.

0:17.8

Thanks for listening and enjoy the podcast. cast. Today it's my great honor to have Bernay Brown on the podcast.

0:42.7

Bernay is a research professor at the University of Houston Graduate College of Social Work.

0:47.2

She has spent the past 13 years studying vulnerability, courage, worthiness, and shame.

0:52.0

Bernay is the author of three number one New York time bestsellers,

0:56.0

Rising Strong, daring greatly, and the gifts of imperfection.

1:00.0

Thanks for talking with me today, Bernay.

1:02.0

I'm excited. I'm looking forward to it. I'm a big fan of your work, so I'm excited to jump in.

1:07.0

Wow, that means a lot to me that you said that. I'm a big fan of yours as well, and I'm really looking for the talking today and I thought we could start with your career starting topic

1:17.1

Shane how did you get interested in this topic?

1:21.2

You know I didn't have any I didn't really have interest in that topic I was very interested in connection and kind of I'm trying to understand the anatomy of connection because I was you know I have

1:31.4

Bachelor's in social work a master's and was working on my PhD in social work, and I think I summarized by, you know, 15 years of higher ed and my $100,000 in school loans as we are wired to be connected to one of

1:45.8

each other. That was the big takeaway and so I really wanted to understand what

1:52.0

does it mean,

1:52.8

does connection really mean,

1:54.8

how do we build it, and what gets in the way.

1:58.0

And I wasn't really interested in what gets in the way.

2:00.6

I was just, I thought, you know, if I come across it, that'll be interesting.

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