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In The Thick

#61: Bipartisan Violence

In The Thick

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🗓️ 9 May 2017

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In the last few weeks, protests have been turning violent across the country. But who is starting the violence? Those on the far-left, far-right, or both? And what does the police response tell us about what the U.S. might become?

Hosts Maria Hinojosa and Julio Ricardo Varela lead a discussion on this and more with Farah Stockman, reporter for the New York Times, and Mike German, former FBI agent, who worked as an undercover agent among white supremacists.

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0:00.0

This episode of In Thethick is brought to you by 1,800 Flowers.

0:04.0

All the anger that is justifying this violence is based on we're victims, therefore our violence is justified.

0:11.0

What they're selling is victimhood, both sides.

0:13.8

Hey, welcome to In The Thick, a podcast about politics, race and culture from a POC perspective.

0:22.4

I'm Julio Rico-Lober-Ella, and I'm Maria Inuosan and I'm Maria Inu Hosa and I'm joined by Farah stockman

0:26.9

reporter for the New York Times. Welcome back Farah.

0:30.0

Hey thanks for having me and also joining us from New York is Mike German, a former FBI agent who worked as an undercover agent among white supremacist.

0:39.0

Welcome back to you too, Mike.

0:41.0

Thanks for having me again. So let's just dive into the news. We're

0:45.0

gonna start by turning to France. A lot of people were scared that this wave of

0:51.0

ethnic nationalism that we've seen with Donald Trump with Brexit might

0:55.0

spread to France?

0:57.0

Centrist candidate Emmanuel Macron appearing with his wife, celebrating a decisive victory

1:01.9

over the far-rights Marine rights Marine Le Pen winning by a landslide margin of about 30 points.

1:07.0

Lappen did get over 30% of the vote.

1:10.0

So Mike, you know, are you more worried because of the fact that there's this 30% out there in France that did vote for Le Pen?

1:17.7

Or is this a sigh of relief?

1:19.8

I think there is a sigh of relief.

1:21.8

You know, it's obviously better than the alternative but I think it demonstrates again

1:26.3

that this ethnic nationalism if you want to put it that way is still a prevalent part of the political discourse in Europe and the United States.

1:39.3

What about you, Farah, are you feeling about what happened in France?

1:42.6

Well, my friends in France are pretty relieved.

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