602. I Confront Britain's Biggest Racist

The Andrew Gold Show (Heretics)

Andrew Gold

Society & Culture, Personal Journals, Documentary

4.3 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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In this explosive episode of Heretics, host Andrew Gold sits down with controversial figure Steve Laws for a no-holds-barred discussion on racism, immigration, ethnonationalism vs. civic nationalism, mass deportation, the role of Jewish people in UK society, Holocaust skepticism, and the future of England. SPONSORS: Use my code Andrew25 on MyHeritage: https://bit.ly/AndrewGoldDNA Grab your free seat to the 2-Day AI Mastermind: https://link.outskill.com/GOLDNOV4 Start fresh at tryfum.com/products/zero-crisp-mint . Over 500,000 people have already made the switch — no nicotine, no vapor, no batteries. Just flavor, fidget, and a fresh start. Get up to 45% off Ekster with my code ANDREWGOLDHERETICS: https://partner.ekster.com/andrewgoldheretics Plaud links! Official Website: Uk: https://bit.ly/3K7jDGm US: https://bit.ly/4a0tUie Amazon: https://amzn.to/4hQVyAm Get an automatic 20% discount at checkout until December 1st. Cut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month at https://mintmobile.com/heretics Steve Laws doesn't shy away from his extreme views, calling for "total remigration" and defending his self-proclaimed racist stance. Andrew challenges him on feasibility, empathy, and historical facts in a tense, unfiltered debate that exposes the divide on the right. Is this the light needed to combat bad ideas, or does it go too far? Watch to decide. If you value raw, uncensored conversations on UK politics, nationalism, immigration crisis, racism debates, and cultural identity, hit SUBSCRIBE and turn on notifications for more Heretics episodes. Like if you want more interviews like this, and comment below: Are you as horrified by this as I am? Let's discuss! #RacismDebate #Ethnonationalism #ImmigrationCrisis #UKPolitics #Deportation #Nationalism #HereticsPodcast #AndrewGold #SteveLaws #ControversialInterview #CulturalIdentity #Zionism #HolocaustDenial #TommyRobinson Join the 30k heretics on my mailing list: https://andrewgoldheretics.com Check out my new documentary channel: https://youtube.com/@andrewgoldinvestigates Andrew on X: https://twitter.com/andrewgold_ok Insta: https://www.instagram.com/andrewgold_ok Heretics YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@andrewgoldheretics Chapters: 0:00 "I'm a Racist – And Proud of It!" Steve Laws' Bold Admission 3:00 Civic vs. Ethnonationalism: The Civil War on the Right Exposed 6:00 What Makes Someone "English"? Blood, Ethnicity, or Values? 9:00 Shocking Deportation Plan: Millions Thrown on Planes? 12:00 Jews in England: "You'd Be Gone to Israel" – Personal Attack? 15:00 Holocaust Numbers Argument: Dangerous Denial? 18:00 Tommy Robinson Called a "Zionist Traitor" – Feud Ignites 21:00 Mixed-Race Kids & Collective Punishment: Where's the Line? 24:00 'England for the English" – But What About Normans & History? 27:00 Civil War Prediction: Would Brits Fight Mass Deportations? 30:00 Jewish Influence on Immigration: Conspiracy 33:00 "You're Not European" – Anti-Semitic Vibes Escalate 36:00 Woke Whites vs. Foreigners: Who's the Real Enemy? 39:00 Israel as Ethnostate: Hypocrisy in Nationalism? 42:00 Patterns of Blame: Scapegoating Jews for UK Problems 45:00 "Total Remigration" Details: Letters, Stages, and Chaos 48:00 Empathy for Minorities? "I Don't Care – Everyone Gone" 51:00 Pakistanis & Grooming Gangs: Justify Collective Expulsion? 54:00 Gaza Analogy: OK with Bombing Kids in War? 57:00 "White People Will Go Extinct" – Inevitable or Preventable? 1:00:00 Authoritarianism Warning: Police State to Save England? 1:03:00 Hypotheticals: What If Your Wife Had "Foreign Blood"? 1:06:00 Younger Generation Radicalized: Hope or Danger? 1:09:00 Anywhere vs. Somewhere People: Class Divide on Immigration 1:12:00 Islamic Terrorism & Crackdowns: Balance Liberty and Security? 1:15:00 Final Standoff: "I Want My Country Back" vs. Feasibility 1:18:00 Heretic Admired & Viewer Challenge: Comment Your Side! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Are you a racist?
0:01.0	If that makes me racist, so be it, I wear it proudly.
0:04.0	I've had enough.
0:05.0	I want everyone gone. So someone's going to come knock on my door. It's not personal. It's necessary. That will not work. To find out who would have to be removed. The easiest way to do this is medical records. This is mental. I don't believe you are European. I think you're Jewish. going to Israel. Yeah, if I had power, mate, you would be.
0:23.0	You shake your believe you're European. I think you're Jewish. But I'm not going to Israel. Yeah. If I had power,
0:21.0	mate, you would be. You shake your leg and get aggressive when we talk about Jews being
0:28.1	European. I'm not shaking my leg and just giving you. I just have a Twitch. The Twitch only comes up
0:32.1	when Jews are mentioned. We can move on to another topic if you want to. I can envision millions of
0:36.6	people being thrown onto planes and deported from my country. I think Tommy Robinson will fight against that. Tommy Robinson will do because he's a traitor. Tommy Robinson has loads of foreign friends. He promotes multiculturalism. He's a Zionist piece of shit. Do you have any room in your mind for that you might be wrong? No. See, that's the sign of an ideal.
0:55.7	Can you do me a favour?
0:59.0	If you get value from these conversations, hit subscribe.
1:03.9	I've never done this before, but I've taken a leaf out of Elon Musk's book and included several notes throughout this episode to clarify moments that are inaccurate or misleading.
1:09.9	Podcast interviews are a unique and engaging way to bring important societal issues into the public conversation,
1:14.6	but they lack real-time fact-checking.
1:16.6	That means mistakes can slip through, including some I made here.
1:20.6	Like me, many of my viewers are rightly concerned about the state of the country,
1:23.6	and its lack of direction and identity.
1:26.6	My guiding principle, however,
1:28.1	remains the same. I judge people on the content of their character, not their immutable
1:32.9	characteristics, no matter how tempting it may be, particularly in dark times to do otherwise. I
1:39.1	thought carefully about my own role in platforming Steve Laws, because I believe some of his
1:43.2	ideas are dangerous.
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