602 // Carla Walker Murder Solved & More Stories From America's Crime Lab w/ Elin Lantz Lesser

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Society & Culture, True Crime, News

4 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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In this episode, Crawlspace Media's Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with Elin Lantz Lesser about her new podcast, America's Crime Lab. We speak about the murder of Carla Walker from Fort Worth, Texas and how Othram Labs stepped in with advanced DNA and genetic genealogy technology to help solve the case. This episode was originally published on Missing on October 9th, 2025. Listen here: Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/7fYr80jBgXqMxPiQVZihKO⁠. Apple: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/americas-crime-lab/id1458661510⁠. Check out Elin's site: ⁠https://www.elinlantzlesser.com/⁠. Othram Labs: ⁠https://othram.com/⁠. Sources: ⁠https://txtruecrimeblog.com/blog-archive/carla-walker⁠. ⁠https://youtu.be/W4U6ChGIlAQ?si=nG5JBb6Xbt6xRoB8⁠. This episode is brought to you by Ask for Andrea, a novel by Noelle W. Ihli and released by Kensington Publishing. You can find the deluxe special edition trade paperback of Ask for Andrea wherever books are sold—for a limited time! Follow Missing: IG: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠⁠. Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm I'm In today's episode of CrawlSpace, we are replaying a conversation we had for missing a couple of months ago back in October with a great journalist named aelin lance
0:40.0	lesser and she's the host of a fantastic new podcast called america's crime lab and lance we speak
0:47.6	about several different cases with aileen and of course america's crime lab is referring to Othram Labs, which is pretty familiar to our audience and certainly to us. What do you think of this conversation?
1:02.1	Well, you know, anytime we have the opportunity to get somebody on who represents Othrum, we grab that opportunity. And Aileen is such a great representative of Othram and somebody who has experienced
1:14.5	what it's like to work like firsthand with David and Kristen Middellman and that is such a cool
1:19.5	thing to hear that perspective because we've had them on the show before and we've had dialogues
1:23.9	when we're not recording just about how much good that this company does,
1:27.8	they go to CrimeCon, they represent so well at CrimeCon.
1:31.3	And we get a wonderful inside glimpse into how fast and how effective their technology has
1:38.9	been moving in order to solve these cold cases.
1:41.3	And it's just a pleasure to have Ailan on.
1:44.1	It is. And the new podcast is great.
1:46.2	It really takes the stories that they've been moving forward in the crime space and tries to tell
1:52.6	them in, you know, the fashion that is really consumable. And I think the challenge is there's a lot
1:58.6	of science behind this stuff. So AileenLan comes in and makes the story much more consumable for listeners.
2:06.9	So you can subscribe to America's Crime Lab right now on your favorite podcatcher.
2:12.1	And also check out what Othrum is doing on their website at Othrum.com.
2:18.1	That's O-T-H-R-A-M dot com.
2:21.9	All right, we're going to break real quick for commercial,
2:23.8	and we will be back with Aileen Lance, with a T-Z, Lesser.
2:29.1	Okay, please follow us on social media at Missing CSM.
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