60. True Crime on Trial
Lady Killers with Lucy Worsley
BBC
4.7 • 908 Ratings
🗓️ 24 February 2026
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
In the final episode of the series, Lucy Worsley puts true crime itself on trial. Why are we so fascinated by stories of murder, violence, and scandal and was it ever thus? Is true crime guilty of sensationalism and stereotyping, or can it reveal something more profound about society, culture, and ourselves?
Lucy is joined by her all-female team of detectives, in-house historian Professor Rosalind Crone and guest detective Hannah Maguire, co-host of the hit podcast RedHanded. Together they examine the long history of true crime as entertainment, asking whether today’s podcasts, documentaries, and social media sleuthing are really so different from the pamphlets, broadsides, waxworks, and tabloid stories of the past.
The episode revisits three notorious cases. Martha Brown, executed in 1856 for killing her abusive husband, whose fate drew public sympathy and inspired Thomas Hardy’s Tess of the d’Urbervilles. Mary Pearcy, convicted in 1890 of the brutal murder of her lover’s wife and baby, whose trial and execution became a Victorian media sensation. And Elvira Barney, the glamorous socialite who in 1932 shot her lover and walked free, the tabloids feasting on every detail of her privileged world.
Through these stories, Lucy, Ros and Hannah explore how women have been represented in true crime narratives, and how gendered assumptions about violence and morality have shaped the way female offenders are portrayed. They also consider why audiences, past and present, are drawn to these tales, and whether our hunger for crime stories reflects fear, fascination, or the thrill of playing detective from the safety of our own homes.
Producer: Riham Moussa Readers: Clare Corbett, Moya Angela, Jonathan Keeble and Ruth Sillers Sound Design: Chris Maclean Executive Producer: Kirsty Hunter
A StoryHunter production for BBC Radio 4.
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| 0:40.8 | Welcome. me, Professor Gilesio. Listen first on BBC Sounds. Welcome to Lady Killers with me, Lucy Worsley, from BBC Radio 4. |
| 0:51.5 | In this episode, we're investigating true crime itself, and we're asking, |
| 0:57.8 | why has it become such an obsession of ours? |
| 1:01.2 | And was it ever thus? |
| 1:03.7 | I should warn you that this episode contains material some listeners may find distressing. |
| 1:09.5 | In this season so far, we've experienced some things that will be very familiar to anyone who regularly consumes true crime documentaries, podcasts and books. |
| 1:20.0 | We've had dramatic phone calls from the scene of the crime. |
| 1:25.1 | Come at once. Come at once. |
| 1:28.7 | There's been a terrible accident. |
| 1:32.5 | Eyewitnesses recounting suspicious behaviour. |
| 1:37.1 | I saw a wheel in a bassinet perambulator in the middle of the road. |
| 1:41.6 | Expert witnesses analysing the crime scene. |
| 1:46.8 | The absence of blood everywhere but in this room seems to show that he must have been killed in this room. |
| 1:48.0 | The accused, trying to mount a defence. |
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