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60 - The SEC and DeFi | Hester Peirce

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🗓️ 12 April 2021

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

Bankless Fan and SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce comes on the podcast to discuss tokens, DeFi, 'self-driving banks,' and regulation.

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Bankless Podcast #60 - SEC & DeFi
Guest: Hester Peirce

Hester Peirce is one of five SEC Commissioners and has been a knowledgable advocate for crypto as the world works out how to regulate the budding industry. The main goals of the Security & Exchange Commission are threefold – to protect investors; maintain fair, orderly, and efficient markets; and facilitate capital formation. The SEC governs far more than crypto, but increasing attention is coming to the space as capital gravitates into it.

Regulating crypto begins with officially establishing the asset class, e.g. currencies, capital assets, commodities, equities, et al. The next step is giving these assets legitimacy in existing financial institutions through exchange-traded products like a Bitcoin ETF.

Below the base money layer, there exists Layer 0, the social layer. Layer 0 must be willing to officially play ball with the cryptoeconomy, and that's what makes regulators like Hester so important. The net optimization of these layers makes for an unequivocally better society: a more inclusive, equitable, and efficient one.

Hester believes in governing principles, not specific technologies. It's important here to remember the three main goals of the SEC. The value propositions of crypto – providing a permissionless, trustless, and verifiable means to transact – are in accord with the values of a free state. The role of government is to encourage and protect mutually beneficial, voluntary engagement among citizens.

Although the harmony between crypto's core values and those of a free state are readily apparent to a seasoned Bankless listener, the rest of Layer 0 must still be convinced. Crypto is a frontier with infinite possibilities, and effectively regulating such an ecosystem is a massive task. However, based on this conversation, there seem to be many reasons to be optimistic about the future of Crypto & DeFi regulation.

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Resources:

🚀 Atomic Trading 🚀
https://www.sec.gov/news/speech/peirce-atomic-trading-2021-02-22 

Get Ready For Self-Driving Banks
https://www.ft.com/content/c1caca5b-01f7-41be-85a4-3ecb883f2417 

Gary Gensler MIT Crypto Course
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUl4u3cNGP63UUkfL0onkxF6MYgVa04Fn 

Hester on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/HesterPeirce?s=20 

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Not financial or tax advice. This channel is strictly educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any assets or to make any financial decisions. This video is not tax advice. Do your own research.

Disclaimer: The views expressed in the episode are those of Hester Peirce, not the SEC nor any of her fellow commissioners.

Disclosure: From time-to-time I may add links in this newsletter to products I use. I may receive commission if you make a purchase through one of these links. Additionally, the Bankless writers hold crypto assets. See our investment disclosures here:
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And to bankless, we'll re-explore the frontier of internet money and internet finance.

0:19.0

This is how to get started, how to get better, and how to frontrun the opportunity.

0:23.3

This is Ryan Chon Adams.

0:24.3

I'm here with David Hoffman, and we're here to help you become more bankless.

0:29.3

David, what an episode.

0:31.0

First time we've had an SEC commissioner on bankless.

0:35.5

And not only was she a guest, she's also a listener of the show.

0:39.6

Yeah, absolutely fantastic.

0:41.1

Pretty cool that the great words of bankless are making their way all the way into the office

0:45.9

of the SEC.

0:47.6

Hester Perse, more endearingly known as Crypto Mom, has been one of, I think, crypto's biggest

0:54.4

allies in this space, and she's careful about that word because she doesn't advocate

0:57.7

for any specific industry.

0:59.7

But why we call her Crypto Mom in the crypto world is because she understands the value

1:04.8

and what can come out of crypto, and she wants to make sure that the power, the dormant

1:10.1

power that is in crypto is able to manifest in ways that are good instead of being bad.

1:15.4

And it's very rare to have someone who is in a governmental regulatory body that also

1:20.7

understands the power that can be and is looking to help facilitate that.

1:25.7

So Hester Perse is a fantastic ally of this space, really happy to have a very deep

1:30.3

and thorough conversation with her about a whole range of subjects such as tokens, DeFi,

1:35.9

quote-unquote self-driving banks, and regulatory clarity and what she's optimistic about into

1:41.5

the future.

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