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The Tim & April Show

60. Can America Avoid a Christian Nationalist Takeover

The Tim & April Show

TNE Media

Politics, News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into the early warning signs of fascism, focusing on the concept of nationalism. They discusses how nationalism manifests as a strong identification with one's own nation, often at the expense of others, and draws parallels to contemporary political slogans like 'America First.' Chapters 05:42 The Disparity in Perspectives on Current Events 17:51 The Shallow Theology of White Evangelicalism 29:28 The Journey of Deconstruction and Its Implications 37:08 The War Against Deconstruction: Understanding the Backlash 44:15 The Role of the Military: Supremacy and Control 51:37 Religion and Government: The Intertwined Relationship 01:01:12 Crime and Punishment: The Narrative of Fear ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:06.7

Hey everyone, Melinda Hale here, the executive director of the New Evangelicals.

0:10.7

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0:55.4

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1:13.8

I mean, you're the boss around here, April, not me.

1:15.9

So you do whatever you want.

1:17.5

Wear headphones.

1:18.2

Don't wear headphones.

1:20.0

I'm just, I'm being a diva today.

1:23.0

Well, you are sick, and you're still recording.

1:25.1

So, thanks.

1:25.8

I know.

1:26.1

Look at me.

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