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The Wedding Scammer

6. Undercover Cowboy

The Wedding Scammer

The Ringer

True Crime

4792 Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2023

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Justin confronts Carl Butcho, a.k.a. Lance Miller. And he records the whole thing.  Host: Justin Sayles   Producers: Jade Whaley, Mike Wargon, Bobby Wagner, Amanda Dobbins, Justin Sayles, and Vikram Patel  Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club Sound Design: Bobby Wagner  Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey all, you know the drill by now.

0:04.1

The Wedding Scammer is a seven-part series that isn't complete until you get to the end.

0:10.3

Before we start, I want to give a heads up that this episode includes mentions of substance misuse in suicidal ideation.

0:17.5

Those seeking treatment for addiction can call 800-662 help.

0:22.0

If you or someone you know is experiencing suicidal thoughts, you can call 988.

0:28.5

Previously on The Wedding Scammer.

0:32.2

I went to my husband's bar and had a glass of wine and looked up Lance Miller online, couldn't find a thing about him.

0:41.0

And I said, I keep realizing that, like, everything that he said to me has been a lie so far.

0:46.9

And I was like, I need to put you guys in touch because you have so much information.

0:51.3

I didn't think it was that deep.

0:52.6

I didn't think that you, like, had all this, like, information.

0:56.3

The book stops here, as Texans say.

1:02.3

When I think about Carl Buccio's life, I think about how stressful it must be.

1:08.6

I don't say this to take his side or excuse him, but let's game this out.

1:12.8

You move to a new town, take on a new name, make some new friends, begin fresh.

1:19.6

But from the jump, you worry about slipping up, about somebody figuring out your true identity.

1:25.6

Then things go sideways and you have to pick up and run.

1:28.3

Begin the process all over again.

1:30.3

Sure, you've got your husband Barrett and your dog Kingston,

1:33.3

but it's a lot of upheaval.

1:35.3

And it's something Carl has done at least a few times.

1:41.3

But amid all the paranoia and running away,

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