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The Big Picture

6. ‘The Hurt Locker’ and ‘Iron Man’ | Mission Accomplished

The Big Picture

The Ringer

Tv & Film

4.35.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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As Hollywood and America look toward a brighter future, two war films explore the long-term impacts of the Bush years on soldiers and civilians alike. Host: Brian Raftery Producers: Devon Baroldi, Brian Raftery, and Vikram Patel Sound Design: Devon Baroldi Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

One night in January 2002, George W. Bush hosted a movie night's sleepover.

0:10.0

He'd only been in office for a year, but those first 12 months had been tumultuous.

0:15.0

9-11, the strikes in Afghanistan, and the looming threat of war in Iraq.

0:20.0

That winter, during a weekend retreat to Camp David, Bush invited strikes in Afghanistan, and the looming threat of war in Iraq.

0:26.2

That winter, during a weekend retreat to Camp David, Bush invited 20 Republican members of Congress to watch a movie with him. It was a film that had recently become a political talking

0:30.7

point, the 1990s set war movie Black Hawk Down.

0:35.8

Once that first bullet goes past your head,

0:40.3

politics go right out the window.

0:44.6

Directed by Ridley Scott, and based on a book by journalist Mark Bowden,

0:49.3

Black Hawk Down was the true story of a disastrous 1993 peacekeeping mission in Mogadishu, Somalia.

0:55.7

Hundreds of Somalis and 18 American soldiers were killed that day.

1:00.7

Not long afterward, the U.S. withdrew from Somalia altogether.

1:08.9

Black Hawk Down had been filmed in early 2001

1:11.5

and made with help from the U.S. Defense Department,

1:14.7

which supplied helicopters and trained some of the actors on flight simulators.

1:19.1

The result was an extremely visceral war movie.

1:21.9

At times, you could almost feel the rattle as machine gun fire

1:24.9

hit a U.S. Black Hawk helicopter.

1:28.4

C-2, this is 6-8. We've been hit. the rattle as machine gun fire hit a U.S. Black Hawk helicopter. Though the mission in Black Hawk down quickly turns deadly, the American soldiers are

1:35.7

strong-willed and clear-eyed, even when the odds are against them. In one of the film's

1:40.5

quieter scenes, a Delta Force soldier, played by Eric Banna, explains how he'll talk about the battle when he gets home.

1:47.0

He knows the kind of questions he'll get. Why do you do it? Why do you knowingly go into combat?

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