Hi this is Hope.

This is Kagan.

This is Katie from Washington, D.C. and Mirror Left and No Meats.

Radio. Hey Matt, have you ever been paddleboarding?

I have never been paddleboarding.

Do you want to? I mean does it sound fun to?

Is this like a trick? You gonna like corner me into having to do it something?

No, I don't like that sort of thing.

I don't like nature type things.

That seems boring to me.

All right, fair enough.

Well, I used to not think that paddleboarding would be all that fun.

I've actually done it one time before and I enjoyed it but

it seems like floating very slowly on a big body of body water. Like kayaking, canoeing,

on like a lake. Kayaking on a river seems a lot more fun to me.

Except this you're, how old you're standing up right?

Right. So it's even more power.

Right.

But I went out the other day, so I was out visiting some friends in Vermont,

and they live on a lake, on a small lake, and really no one else lives around there.

So there aren't other boats and that kind of thing

but it rained all morning and the rain had just stopped and the sun came out and I

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