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Yeah, so I met Scott in 2013 and I was super new to ice climbing.

Nobody would go climbing with me.

I was at the Uri Ice Park and I was getting ditched every day.

I was like, oh, yeah, there's a Gumby chick with the core shot rope and a helmet that's falling off her head, you know. It's so hard to imagine you getting dead. Oh, yeah. People love not climbing with me right at the beginning there. The reason it's hard for me to imagine Angela getting ditched is because she is probably

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