6. Globalism, Scottish Nationalism, and Rory's new job

The Rest Is Politics

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Politics, Government, News

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🗓️ 6 April 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Could this be the final ever episode of The Rest Is Politics after Rory's revelation last Friday, 1st April? Hopefully not! After more terrible news from Ukraine and some countries refusing to shun Russia, could this crisis herald the end of a globalism? Also, reaction to populist leaders Orban and Le Pen gaining support in Europe, the ethics of working with questionable regimes, and what first attracted Rory Stewart to the Conservative Party? Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @RestIsPolitics Email: [email protected] Producer: Dom Johnson Exec Producers: Tony Pastor & Jack Davenport Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Thanks for listening to The Restless Politics. Sign up to The Restless Politics plus to enjoy
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0:07.4	early access to live show tickets. Just go to TheRestlessPolitics.com. That's TheRestlessPolitics.com.
0:21.2	Welcome to The Restless Politics. I'm Alistair Campbell and I am Rory Stewart. And we have a lot
0:26.5	to get through today. Costa Living Crisis, Channel 4, Vandalism I call it. They call it privatization.
0:32.4	Horrible, horrible, horrible news from Ukraine. But first Rory, I mean honestly, is this
0:38.8	going to be our last ever podcast? Am I going to have to sack you? Well, you did sack me, didn't you?
0:44.5	No, I sent out, for most listeners won't necessarily be a web, but I sent out a tweet on
0:51.2	April Fool's Day saying very honored to be appointed as the Prime Minister's
0:56.2	Directorate of Communications. And it was extraordinary. It got five million views.
1:02.5	The BBC ran it very solemnly. Bottom of the ticketate, Rory Stewart takes over his Directorate
1:07.2	of Communications for Boris Johnson. That was funny. That was genuinely funny that they didn't even
1:12.3	see through on April 1. My daughter was taken in. Well, what's so weird about it, Alistair,
1:20.0	is that it's inconceivable for me that I could ever be in Boris Johnson's cabinet
1:27.7	even weirder that I could be as Directorate of Communications. I guess the thing that we've picked
1:31.2	up from talking to you is that the reason your relationship with Tony Blair worked is that you've
1:35.1	felt immense loyalty towards Tony Blair. You agree with him on things. So you were able to speak
1:39.6	from the idea that I'd be able to speak for Boris Johnson seems kind of insane.
1:43.3	But you know, I mentioned you the other day that I'm reading this book at the moment. The
1:47.0	Revenge of Power by Moises Naim. And one of the things he says in there which I think is interesting
1:51.6	is that what's happened with polarisation of which of course Johnson's quite a big part
1:56.4	and populism is that people are kind of, we're becoming programmed to be more liable to believe
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