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The Process with Jude Brewer

6: better than real life

The Process with Jude Brewer

Jude Brewer

Science, Technology, Society & Culture

4.8763 Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Kevin and Leslie, and the history of sound in 100 years. Transcripts can be found at ⁠https://judebrewer.substack.com/⁠ Street interviews by Paul Kim. Filming by Justin Boswick of Barnegat Studios. Thank you to the Hollywood Theater in Portland. Kevin Senzaki can be found here: https://senzaki.com/ Frank and Cory Make a Story - a videogame about how a story is created Music by ⁠John Fio⁠. Artwork by ⁠Allison Conway⁠. Sources: A History of Musique Concrete and Ulysses The Story of Jack Foley Leslie Shatz Remembers Norman Mailer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

A lot of times in life you'll find yourself in these places where you would expect the people with seniority or authority to have their shit together.

0:18.0

Pretty early on they had me cooking omelets and I had not been trained in food handling in any way.

0:23.6

This is like a big, in theory, finely tuned machine and they're just handing me a bucket full of egg-like material and telling me to make food for paying students.

0:31.6

And they're just trusting I won't kill them or myself in the process.

0:35.6

That's Kevin Sanzaki.

0:38.2

If you spent any decent amount of time on YouTube in the past decade,

0:41.7

chances are you've heard his work without realizing it.

0:48.2

Kevin is a sound designer, largely self-taught.

0:51.4

You gain a better understanding of what you're doing by not knowing what you're doing

0:55.6

for a long time, but you're kind of teaching yourself through your own mistakes.

1:00.0

If I sort of do it the wrong way myself, then I kind of figure it out, I feel like.

1:04.7

Like Kevin, before sound design was feasible as a means of living, I had my own unique variety

1:09.4

of day jobs, so everything I did

1:11.4

was largely self-taught. Sound and writing were my passions outside of work, and any free time

1:17.1

I had went into making what I loved. We both came up around the YouTube scene in the early

1:21.7

2000s, when it had just been purchased by Google. You know, right when we got into film school,

1:26.2

we were told that, you know, professional

1:28.0

film cameras were a quarter million dollars and then something came out at essentially

1:31.3

a tenth of that price point.

1:33.1

So it seemed like, you know, we were on the verge of this more democratizing, you know, a media

1:38.5

movement, which in hindsight is perhaps naive.

1:41.6

So while YouTube and the internet were still sort of a Wild West frontier, Kevin, having

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