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Evan & Tiki

6-4-25 Hour 2: The James Dolan-Leon Rose Dynamic

Evan & Tiki

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Sports

4.2988 Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Who is making the Knicks calls behind the scenes?

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0:00.0

Believe it or not, a few people have reached out to me worried about our canceled Lugash debate series from yesterday.

0:07.7

I mentioned at the top of the show that with the next season now being over,

0:12.3

Tommy Lugauer and Sean Morass would have an official debate on King of New York update,

0:17.1

Aaron Judge versus Jalen Brunson.

0:18.6

I mentioned it would happen at 4 o'clock yesterday.

0:20.9

But things happened. Tom Thibodeau got fired. The show changed, obviously. So I promise you,

0:26.1

today at 4 o'clock, it is a scheduled Lugash debate series, King of New York, Jalen Brunson

0:33.3

versus Aaron Judge. You guys excited for it? Yeah, Yeah. I mean, we've prepared for this for five days, so it better be the best

0:39.5

Lugash debate series, as far as I'm concerned, at least from my side of thing.

0:42.2

I'm looking forward to it. Remember, Teak, it's not about who we think is the king. It's

0:45.8

about who won the debate. Who wins the argument.

0:48.8

I know this is a tease for the next hour, but I do want to make that clear because Tommy did turn to me in the last break and said, whoever wins this debate has declared the king of New York, right? I said, that's not how this works.

0:57.2

No, that's not how works. Unfortunately, currently the score in the Lugash debate series is six for Sean

1:02.3

five for Tommy. We did fact check that over the last 24 hours in the decision to fire Tom Thibodeau has been about,

1:13.2

was this a James Dolan special?

1:15.7

Obviously, there have been times in Nick history where James Dolan got heavy handed.

1:20.3

It has now basically been confirmed that he interfered in the Carmelo Anthony trade.

1:24.8

That Donnie Walsh was negotiating, James Dolan wanted to get the deal done.

1:29.0

And before you know it, there's more draft picks and Timothy Moskhov's in the deal.

1:32.4

Right.

1:33.0

So Dolan was a very handsy owner.

1:36.8

Over the last few years, he hasn't been a handsy owner.

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