So what are you doing? There's a giant Supreme Court ruling that's complicated. You talk

to the smartest person you know about constitutional law. And that is Tim Maloyer, who started as a

collared a caller to the show. And he was already a genius lawyer. He just was calling into the

show regular. And then we started having a long we started having them on as a guest. Tim

Sanvers, the vice president for litigation at the Goldwater Institute and the author of Frederick

Douglas Self-made Man among other fantastic books that deal with the Liberty Economic and otherwise

Tim. Welcome. How are you, sir? I'm great. You know, my career is a tribute to the upward

trajectory that is possible to any listener who is the beneficiary of your education daily education

efforts on the air. I think that is a sound sound conclusion efforts really being the keyword there.

Yeah. So listen, Supreme the Supreme Court has delivered a rather large blow to public

employee unions in particular. With the case today, I think tell us about it. Yeah. And this is

not something that we haven't foreseen. I mean, this has been coming for quite some time, but it

certainly delivers the punch that we've all been waiting for. This case is called Janus. And what

it involves is the question of whether public employees can be required to subsidize the activities

of public sector unions. Now, in the private sector, employees are sometimes required, even if they

don't join the union, to pay what they call an agency fee, which is money directed, deducted

directly from their paychecks to support the union. But the first amendment says that they can't

be required to subsidize political lobbying by their union because it's wrong to be forced to

subsidize political activities that you disagree with because that violates their freedom of speech.

But public sector unions are different because everything that they do is a political activity.

If a public sector union goes and lobbies the government for an increase in their budget or

an expansion of their hours or even just ordinary personnel policy, that is political activity because

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