6/17/22 Ray McGovern on the Russian Invasion: What He Missed and What It All Means

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Scott Horton

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🗓️ 22 June 2022

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Scott is joined by Ray McGovern to discuss the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Like many, McGovern was surprised that Putin chose to actually invade Ukraine. He explains why he had been confident Russia would not invade earlier this year and how his analysis of Russia’s goals has changed since then. Discussed on the show: “Did Obama Know ‘Russian Hacking’ Was a Fraud?” (Antiwar.com) “Some Lemmings Wear Wooden Shoes; and Factoring in China” (Antiwar.com Blog) The Doomsday Machine by Daniel Ellsberg 2018 Interview with McGovern about Russian Next-Gen Nuclear Weapons Putin’s 2018 speech Ray McGovern is the co-creator of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity and the former chief of the CIA’s Soviet analysts division. Read all of his work at his website: raymcgovern.com. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	All right, y'all welcome to the Scott Horton's show.
0:02.0	I'm the director of the Libertarian Institute.
0:09.0	I'm the director of the Libertarian Institute,
0:14.8	editorial director of anti-war.com.
0:17.6	Author of the book, Pools Arren,
0:19.6	time to end the war in Afghanistan,
0:21.6	and the brand new enough already. Time to end the war in Afghanistan and the brand new enough already time to end the war on
0:24.8	terrorism and I've recorded more than 5,500 interviews since 2003 almost all on
0:31.3	foreign policy and all available for you at
0:34.3	Scott Horton.org you can sign up the podcast feed there and the full interview
0:39.1	archive is also available at YouTube. YouTube. YouTube. anti-war dot com former CIA analyst in fact former chief of the Soviet division back in the days
0:58.2	of the old USSR and his latest for anti-war.com is did Obama know Russian hacking was a fraud but
1:08.8	also he's got one here on the blog I guess it is yeah it's on the blog
1:13.7	Ray on Ukraine some lemmings wear wooden shoes and factoring in China welcome back how you
1:19.6	doing Ray good Scott how are you?
1:22.7	I'm doing great.
1:23.7	It's been a little while since we talked.
1:24.8	The last time we talked, you were helping me get it wrong that Russia wasn't going to invade Ukraine.
1:29.6	So what have we learned, sir?
1:30.6	Well, I learned a lot.
1:35.0	It's not good to be so wrong and so convinced that I'm wrong, I'm right.
1:42.4	I learned that mirror imaging is something I know all too well about.
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