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Over the years of making my true crime podcast, Helen Gone,

I've learned no town is too small for murder.

I'm Catherine Townsend.

I've heard from hundreds of people across the country with an unsolved murder in their community.

I was calling about the murder of my husband.

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I know a lot of cops.

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Have you ever had to shoot your gun?

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