We will be stopping the wargames, which will save us a tremendous amount of money, unless

until we see that the future negotiation is not going along like it should. We have right now 32,000 soldiers in South Korea, and I'd like to be able to bring them back home, but that's not part of the equation right now. At some point I hope it will be, but not right now.

That's interesting, those were all qualified, so for anybody who's overreacting on either side of it, they were all qualified. The first one was, I would like to end the wargames, will end the wargames unless and until they don't follow through on their end.

And then I'd like to bring home the troops, but that's not part of the deal right now.

Yeah, the, the, he's given away the store. Our allies must be scared to death. I don't quite get right. Oh, well, I'm comfortable with not knowing something. Sure, it's not a thing on cable news. The only thing I'm certain of is that we're thrilled to have Michael Oslin with us. He's Williams Griffith's research fellow in contemporary Asia, military history, contemporary conflict working group member at the Hoover Institution among many other credentials. Michael, how are you, sir?

Doing great guys. How are you? Good. It's a pleasure to have you back again. Thanks. Your initial impressions, please having heard the fairly little that we've all heard.

Well, look, I think the big difference is it's not that we've gotten something we haven't heard before. This is all stuff we have heard before. What's different?

I don't think people are focusing on it as much is that this is the first time you've had two leaders in particular, the leader of North Korea commit to this. At least, you know, in his case, commit to the United States or the basis of the document that they signed yesterday was was drawn from the commitment that Kim Jong-un made to the South Korean leader.

So if there's a difference, the difference is that you now have this tied directly to the North Korean leader. If the North Koreans cheat, if they withdraw, if they do anything that that scuttles the forward progress of this, then first of all, you tie it directly to him.

And secondly, you have incontrovertible evidence that the regime is not serious. So the promises have been made before, but the level is very different. I think that's significant.

The framework thus announced is fairly vague that's not a surprise Pompeo and the foreign ministry at North Korea are going to work together. What are the next signs of serious progress to look for?

I think the next would be, well, it's going to be a multi-level process. The old days of, you know, you have one giant sort of set piece meeting like the Six Party talks, which went on during the Bush years. I think we're past that. Instead, President Trump said I intend to be meeting Kim Jong-un many times more. We'll see if that happens, but that's a possibility, including a potential visit to DC for Kim.

You will have, obviously, Pompeo, Secretary of State Pompeo has created his own channels at the very highest levels. And then you, so he can be going much more regularly.

We've only had one Secretary of State go before. And then you have the working level of the actual experts. And so I think the significant steps is to see if all of these continue along, you know, at the same time, not that the President is going to meet Kim every day, of course.

And I think that all of these are going along. And particularly that they begin to set up a regular negotiating group on what denuclearization means. And that's the other thing that we have to talk about is what is denuclearization of the entire Korean peninsula mean?

Well, for critics who believe this is going to be going to have the same result as past negotiations with Obama, with Clinton, even Jimmy Carter talking to him, whatever.

It seems to me there are three differences. The one you mentioned that you've got the actual leaders meeting with each other.

But the other two things is China seems to be for whatever reason, whatever pressure Trump's put on it. China is actually, you know, enforcing some of the sanctions, which does not happen in the past. And the other one being, this is the first time the leader of North Korea is ever actually feared being attacked. I think they actually think we would do it.

Yeah, I think there certainly is uncertainty that Trump introduced into the North Koreans. You never had a president talk this way or make these types of threats.

So who thought Barack Obama would attack North Korea? Nobody. Nobody. Nobody thought he would attack North Korea in response to an North Korean attack.

Most people that assume that presidents would live up to the alliance. I think, however, I think, however, that Kim Jong-un actually came into this meeting with a lot of confidence. I don't think he would. And if you looked at him, if you looked at the body language, both of these leaders looked very leader-like. They looked like statesmen.

I mean, I was surprised how comfortable they looked with each other. I thought this would be a much different type of meeting. You know, when you remember some of the meetings that we had with Soviet leaders back in the day, you know, very stilted and formal. And here they are on the balcony and they're strolling and they're patting each other on the back and Trump showing on the inside of the limousine.

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