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Chasing Excellence

5x5 | Reading for Recall Over Ego & Letting Flow Happen at Home

Chasing Excellence

Ben Bergeron & Patrick Cummings

Health, Education, Mindset, Crossfit, Wellness, Self-improvement, Holistic Health, Health & Fitness, Fitness

4.8 β€’ 2.2K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

In the first of our new 5x5 series, Ben takes five listener questions on the THINK factor, covering growth mindset, the Fragmented β†’ Focused β†’ Flow framework, and the distillation process behind the CE frameworks we talk about all the time.

You'll walk away with a clear process for building a growth mindset in others, a new approach to retaining what you read and listen to, and a reframe on why letting go is the highest-effort move you can make at home.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, before we get into it, quick heads up on something. We're going to relaunch the Chase Club in

0:05.3

April with some real honest-to-goodness structure. Daily lessons Monday through Thursday,

0:10.3

aka the Daily Chase, 21-day challenges every single month. And Friday, Chase Club chat clubs to keep

0:16.7

all of the work alive. And in May, importantly, the price is going to go up significantly.

0:21.4

Right now, it's just $8 a month or $80 a year. If you've been thinking about joining us,

0:26.6

April is the best time. Lock in the lowest price it'll ever be. Chasingexcellance.

0:31.4

email, the link is in the show notes. Okay, let's get into it.

0:38.9

All right, my friends, welcome back to Chasing Excellence.

0:42.9

I'm Ben Birdron, and we're trying something new today.

0:45.6

This is a Patrick Free episode.

0:49.1

So you are stuck with me.

0:51.4

This is our five by five.

0:53.7

It's a new format we're launching this month. It's built

0:56.5

around the five factors of health. You guys know what those are, those fundamental behaviors that

1:01.2

most directly affect our performance, our vitality and our longevity. They are how you eat,

1:08.2

how you train, how you think, how you connect, and how you sleep.

1:12.9

Each episode, I'll take five listener questions and answer them in about five minutes each.

1:19.5

So today's factor is think.

1:22.8

We've got questions about my weaknesses, growth mindset, getting into a flow state, my self-improvement

1:31.3

process, and we close with a great question about what to do when your brain feels like a

1:37.7

carnival cash machine. So if you want to get a question into the five-by-five, check the link

1:42.9

in the show notes.

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