5x5 | Reading for Recall Over Ego & Letting Flow Happen at Home
Chasing Excellence
Ben Bergeron & Patrick Cummings
4.8 β’ 2.2K Ratings
ποΈ 23 April 2026
β±οΈ 35 minutes
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Summary
In the first of our new 5x5 series, Ben takes five listener questions on the THINK factor, covering growth mindset, the Fragmented β Focused β Flow framework, and the distillation process behind the CE frameworks we talk about all the time.
You'll walk away with a clear process for building a growth mindset in others, a new approach to retaining what you read and listen to, and a reframe on why letting go is the highest-effort move you can make at home.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, before we get into it, quick heads up on something. We're going to relaunch the Chase Club in |
| 0:05.3 | April with some real honest-to-goodness structure. Daily lessons Monday through Thursday, |
| 0:10.3 | aka the Daily Chase, 21-day challenges every single month. And Friday, Chase Club chat clubs to keep |
| 0:16.7 | all of the work alive. And in May, importantly, the price is going to go up significantly. |
| 0:21.4 | Right now, it's just $8 a month or $80 a year. If you've been thinking about joining us, |
| 0:26.6 | April is the best time. Lock in the lowest price it'll ever be. Chasingexcellance. |
| 0:31.4 | email, the link is in the show notes. Okay, let's get into it. |
| 0:38.9 | All right, my friends, welcome back to Chasing Excellence. |
| 0:42.9 | I'm Ben Birdron, and we're trying something new today. |
| 0:45.6 | This is a Patrick Free episode. |
| 0:49.1 | So you are stuck with me. |
| 0:51.4 | This is our five by five. |
| 0:53.7 | It's a new format we're launching this month. It's built |
| 0:56.5 | around the five factors of health. You guys know what those are, those fundamental behaviors that |
| 1:01.2 | most directly affect our performance, our vitality and our longevity. They are how you eat, |
| 1:08.2 | how you train, how you think, how you connect, and how you sleep. |
| 1:12.9 | Each episode, I'll take five listener questions and answer them in about five minutes each. |
| 1:19.5 | So today's factor is think. |
| 1:22.8 | We've got questions about my weaknesses, growth mindset, getting into a flow state, my self-improvement |
| 1:31.3 | process, and we close with a great question about what to do when your brain feels like a |
| 1:37.7 | carnival cash machine. So if you want to get a question into the five-by-five, check the link |
| 1:42.9 | in the show notes. |
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