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The Team House

5th Special Forces Group in Iraq | Rob Leach | Ep. 393

The Team House

dee takos

History, Government, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.71.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2026

⏱️ 102 minutes

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Robert Leach is a former 5th Special Forces Group Green Beret and the author of the military-inspired novel Wretched Descent. He retired from the Army in 2023 and now works in military innovation with CMI2, supporting soldier-driven rapid prototyping (maker spaces, 3D printing/CNC, and drone development) through the Army Research Lab’s Catalyst Pathfinder program.
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00:00 Start 
01:21 Growing Up and Joining the Army
02:20 First Deployment to Iraq
08:05 The Surge and Second Deployment
11:33 Selection and the Q Course
19:13 Joining the Fifth Special Forces Group
21:19 Operation New Dawn and Its Challenges
28:01 The Challenges of Military Operations
36:13 Experiences in Jordan and Regional Dynamics
42:26 Life in the UAE: A Different Perspective
45:01 Transitioning from Combat to Planning
01:02:16 Imagining Future Conflicts
01:09:33 Character Dynamics in Special Forces
01:10:20 Geopolitical Tensions and Technological Advancements
01:15:27 The Challenge of Information Assurance
01:25:29 Countering Drone Technology
01:27:21 Reception and Future of Wretched Descent


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0:00.0

Hey guys, welcome to episode 393 of the team house. I'm Jack Murphy here with today's guest, Robert Leach.

0:14.9

Robert is a former fifth special forces group soldier currently works over there at the Innovation Lab.

0:21.9

And he is also the author of, I Got This Here on My Kindle, Wretched Descent.

0:27.4

I hope you can see that, those of you who are watching this.

0:30.3

I read it.

0:30.8

It's a novel that Rob wrote based on his military experience.

0:35.4

I read it, really enjoyed it.

0:37.3

We'll get into the book a bit later on in this interview.

0:42.0

But first off,

0:43.1

Rob,

0:43.2

thanks for joining us on the show tonight.

0:45.9

Yeah,

0:46.1

thanks for having me.

0:46.8

I'm looking forward to it.

0:48.0

Appreciate it.

0:49.0

So,

0:49.5

let's start at the beginning.

0:51.5

Tell us a little bit about how you grew up

0:53.6

and how that sort of took you towards military service.

0:57.1

Yeah, sure. So I'm originally from Florida, born and raised. It's actually born down in Key West. So I actually born on the island. Not too many people can claim that. I think I'm fourth or fifth generation born down there between the

1:14.3

island and Bahamas and then moved from Key West when I was probably about 10 up to central

1:21.0

Florida, about an hour and a half north of Tampa, about an hour south of Gainesville.

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