#599: The Shooting Death of Alex Pretti
Real Crime Profile
Real Crime Profile / Wondery
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🗓️ 29 January 2026
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Jim and Kathy analyze and discuss the shooting scene before, during and after ICE Agents shot and killed Alex Pretti. Because all of the facts and investigation are not in, they can’t say exactly what happened. But they can say what did not happen…
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the real crime profile. |
| 0:16.0 | This is Jim Clinetti, retired FBI profile, a former New York City prosecutor, |
| 0:19.4 | and right of producer of criminal minds. And with me today is? Kathy Canning Mell, a retired FBI profiler, former New York City Prosecutor and Raducer of Criminal Minds. |
| 0:21.0 | And with me today is? |
| 0:22.7 | Kathy Canning-Meller, a retired FBI agent and profiler and co-host of the Audible series FBI Profilers Criminal Archives with my dear friend, Jim Clemente. |
| 0:35.1 | How you doing, Kathy? |
| 0:36.6 | Good. |
| 0:37.1 | I'll tell you, Kathy, this is a very, very difficult episode to record. |
| 0:45.3 | We are not a political podcast in any way. |
| 0:48.9 | I don't really get involved in politics at all. |
| 0:53.1 | And this is not a political issue that we're talking about. |
| 0:58.8 | We're talking about the issue, the use of deadly physical force by federal agents in Minneapolis. |
| 1:07.8 | And to start, I'm going to say this, and I mean this, the facts and investigative results are not all in yet. |
| 1:18.2 | So we can't definitively say what happened. |
| 1:21.7 | But what we can do is definitively say what did not happen. |
| 1:26.9 | And that is. is definitively say what did not happen. |
| 1:38.1 | And that is necessary in this case because there have been definitive statements by government officials of what did happen. |
| 1:40.9 | And they are absolutely, unequivocally contradicted by the evidence that we've all seen. |
| 1:51.8 | That's right, Jim. And I feel like as FBI agents with decades of experience, and you and I have |
| 1:58.7 | spent probably collectively thousands of hours on the gun range. |
| 2:04.2 | We have opinions here. |
| 2:07.8 | Based on our experience. |
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