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Jason, Tech, Snell, Streaming, Hurley, Apple, Amazon, Myke, Media, Technology

4.51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2026

⏱️ 96 minutes

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0:00.0

From Relay, this is Upgrade episode 599 for January 19th,

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20206.

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Today's show is brought to you by Century, FitBod, and Squarespace.

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My name is Mike Hurley, and I'm joined by Jason Snell.

0:22.9

Hi, Jason. Hi, Mike. That's a lot of nines. It's a lot of nines. It's not all the nines. I hope one day we do get to all the nines. That'll be fun. Yeah, but it's the 19th, and it's 599, so it's three nines. It's not bad. It's not as good as three sevens, but I guess we already did that.

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So, yes, hello.

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Hello.

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Hi, it's us.

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It's $ nines. It's not bad. It's not as good as three sevens, but I guess we already did that.

0:38.0

So, yes, hello. Hi, it's us. It's $5.99. That means, dear friends, that means that next week, the draft of the ages will return. Can't wait.

0:50.5

In which we predict things that happen almost, but not quite, two years hence. Yep. A hundred, in episode 500, you made a set of predictions. We will see how right we were. Oh boy. And then set our predictions. Let me rephrase that for you. We will see how wrong we were. Speak for yourself, Jason Stahle. We'll get to that next week. Yep, yep, yep, yep. We have a Snill Talk question for you. Comes from Dan, who writes and asks. Jason's lover Zeppelin's is known to many listeners. But has Jason ever gone for a ride in a Zeppelin or similar airship? Well, okay, so I'm going to give you the background here, which is the Zeppelin thing, which Zeppelin represents the incomparable. It's like one of our brand things. And it comes out of episode one where we were talking about a bunch of sci-fi novels involving parallel universes, and we kind of did a riff about the fact that all of these things, whenever you see a Zeppelin in a movie or a TV show or it's in a book, it's like a super like universal signifier that you're in a parallel universe because it's like an easy thing of like, hey, there was a time when we thought zeppelins would be everywhere, a little airships would be going around and mooring to tall buildings and all that. And then in the, what, 1930s? The Hindenberg went on fire and people were like, yeah, it's not that

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great an idea, never mind. And it faded away. And so it became a really funny, I thought, signifier of like,

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if you wake up somewhere and think you might be in a parallel universe, the first thing you should

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ask yourself, look around and ask yourself, are there zeppelins? And if there are, you are in a parallel universe. Anyway, so it's more of a running bit than a personal love, but it has over the years, you know, kind of been a, it's picked up and people send me zeppelin. It's true story. Somebody sent me a little, like, model zeppelin. It's up there. And so,

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uh, the answer is no.

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No,

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I have never been in a zeppelin. There was a zeppelin here that was giving the tours of the Bay area for like, I don't know, six months or a year before the company went out of business and I thought about doing it and I didn't do it. I have seen a zeppelin fly. that Zeppelin flew over my house at one point.

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And I was very excited. That was pretty cool.

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Never been on a hot air balloon either um maybe someday I don't know I have been the

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closest I've ever been is I've been in a very small airplane which is a very different thing than

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being in a large jet airplane I've I've been in in small prop planes um quite a lot because my dad flew a small prop plane.

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My mom and dad both had pilot licenses and they flew around and stuff for a while.

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