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🗓️ 16 May 2023
⏱️ 67 minutes
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John and Craig sit down with legendary writer, director and showrunner Vince Gilligan (Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul) to discuss his prolific career and how to make great television. Vince leads us through how he develops a premise, balancing creative surprises with rigorous planning, and his advice for up-and-coming showrunners.
We also discuss re-writing features before following up on the old dancing prospector archetype — only to discover it’s a character Vince has a long personal history with.
In our bonus segment for premium members, John, Craig and Vince get tired of re-runs and ask, which old TV shows do they want to re-boot?
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0:00.0 | Hey, this is John heads up that today's episode has just a little bit of swearing in it |
0:06.4 | Hello, and welcome my name is John August my name is Craig Mason and |
0:11.0 | This is episode 598 of script notes a podcast about screenwriting and things that are interesting to screenwriters |
0:17.5 | Now crack often on this program we make fun of screenwriting competitions |
0:21.8 | Hmm, but I'm wondering if maybe we're wrong because today on the show we welcome the winner of the 1989 |
0:28.3 | Virginia governor screenwriting award |
0:30.5 | This is a writer who's gone on to a prolific career in film and |
0:34.8 | Television including his work on the ex files and creating the legendary series breaking bad and co-creating its |
0:40.9 | Sister series better call Saul. I think we were wrong about screenwriting competitions because welcome Vince Gilligan |
0:48.0 | I love that entertain. Thank you, Jack. Thank you Craig. Yes, you were completely wrong about that. Yeah, I don't know |
0:55.1 | I guess we have to look back at the Virginia governor screenwriting award and really run through the other winners |
1:02.0 | I'm just |
1:03.2 | Some's telling me that maybe maybe they just maybe they just got lucky, you know blind squirrel and all that yeah |
1:10.0 | correlation but not causation. I will say that in 1989 |
1:12.9 | They nailed it because as I have often said on this podcast and in other places Vince Gilligan is pretty much |
1:20.4 | The best that's ever been the best. It's ever done this job of writing television. So it's I mean, it's it's great to know you |
1:27.3 | But it's also great to have you on our show to talk because |
1:30.4 | People need to know what's what's going on inside your noggin. It's it's a pretty special place. Oh, man |
1:35.4 | That is like Jesus. I'm glad this is not a video because I was going going bright red now |
1:41.2 | That was very very kind and I will say I'm sure you guys have said you shouldn't pay to enter screenwriting contest |
1:48.1 | And I agree with that whole heartedly that yeah, the Virginia screenwriting competition was was free to |
1:56.7 | Like music to my ears. No Vince |
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