It's time for episode 598 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay, recorded Wednesday, March 26th, 2025.

Clockwise, four people, where everybody's got time for that.

I am one of your hosts, Micah Sargent, and I am joined across the internet by my dear friend.

It is the one and only Dan,

the man, Morin. Hello, Dan. Hello, Micah. That was the original title of this show. Everybody's got time for that. I would have listened. That's a good title. It is a good title. It's a good

throwback. There are more

reasons for you to listen to this show,

like the awesome guests we have

joining us. To my left,

it is my dear

birthday pal, the business unicorn herself.

It's Kathy Wathie Wamble.

Oh, all right. All right.

I am going to be changing my name to say that.

And to my left this week, it is the co-host of primary technology.

I'm not going to call him Stephen Weaven, Woblenz.

Welcome back, Stephen.

That's actually my middle name.

Weaving, yeah.

It's a family name.

I understand.

That's right.

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