596. Garrett Graff
Podcast UFO
Host: Martin Willis
4.4 • 570 Ratings
🗓️ 14 February 2024
⏱️ 61 minutes
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BIO: Garrett M. Graff, a distinguished journalist and internationally bestselling historian, has spent nearly two decades covering politics, technology, and national security—helping to explain where we’ve been and where we’re headed. The former editor of Washingtonian and POLITICO Magazine and a contributing editor to WIRED Magazine, Graff is the author of multiple books, including the #1 national bestseller The Only Plane in the Sky: An Oral History of 9/11, as well as The Threat Matrix: Inside Robert Mueller’s FBI, and Raven Rock, about the government’s Cold War Doomsday plans. His book Watergate: A New History was a finalist in 2023 for the Pulitzer Prize in History, and his most recent book is UFO: The Inside Story of the US Government’s Search for Alien Life Here—and Out There.
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| 0:00.0 | They keep telling you that the Jeffrey Epstein story is finished, that it was investigated, |
| 0:04.8 | that it was handled. |
| 0:06.1 | But here's the part that they never explain, why the charges were so narrow, when the conduct |
| 0:11.4 | was so broad. |
| 0:13.1 | How does a man with multiple properties, private aircraft, international travel, and a documented |
| 0:18.2 | pipeline of victims get treated like a lone offender. |
| 0:22.1 | Why were logistics treated as background noise instead of evidence? |
| 0:26.0 | Why were facilitators reduced to footnotes instead of defendants? |
| 0:29.8 | Well, that's where we come in. |
| 0:31.7 | The Epstein Chronicles exists because those questions were never answered. |
| 0:36.3 | This podcast breaks down what the public record actually shows, |
| 0:40.1 | the deals that capped exposure, the decisions at limited scope, |
| 0:43.5 | and the moments where prosecutors chose restraint overreach. |
| 0:47.1 | If you ever wondered why this case feels unfinished, |
| 0:49.7 | why accountability stopped at the perimeter, |
| 0:51.5 | or why so many names remain officially invisible, |
| 0:55.6 | you've come to the right place. |
| 1:28.8 | Welcome to the Ep. I'm Martin Willisher host. |
| 1:37.8 | And this is a pre-recorded show. I may be in the chat room, but this is a pre-recorded show because I am going to be on the road while this is airing. |
| 1:41.5 | And I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to have access to good internet or any of that. |
| 1:46.2 | So I decided to pre-record with our great guest today, Garrett Graf. |
| 1:50.5 | He's a distinguished journalist and internationally best-selling historian. |
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