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Okay. Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. My name is Lisa Zambetti. I'm a casting director in Los Angeles, as well as an avid fan of real crime profile. And with me today is Kathy Canning-Meller, retired FBI profiler. And congratulations on your Emmy, Lisa. You forgot that.

Very important. Thank you. And also with us is, of course.

Hi, Jim Clementi, retired FBI profile, former New York City prosecutor, right, producer of criminal minds. And also with us is, of course. Hi, it's Jim Clementi, retired FBI profile, former New York City prosecutor,

right, producer of criminal minds, and blue beard on Audible,

which, of course, was cast by Lisa Zambi.

She got us, Joseph Fines, Karen David, Adrian Paster, and H McElaney. Those are stars, but obviously, like 30 other

actors as well. That was so fun. I listened to it again recently because a friend of mine

was, you know, was interested.

And I just said, okay, well, I'll listen to it with you. So, and I was just, Karen did such an amazing job.

She was flawless.

And every day, she was, she worked every single day.

And, and total, she had more lines than the other three top.

All put together.

Yeah, we're talking about Karen David, this amazing actress.

And if you don't know her, please go look her up.

So, Jim, I don't know if you know this, but we tried to get her as the series regular on the spin-off Beyond Borders.

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