Hello everyone. This is Monica Reinable and you're listening to the Nutrition Diva

podcast and my guest this week is Dr. Jade Wu.

In addition to being the host of the Savvy Psychologist

podcast, Jade is also a behavioral sleep medicine specialist

and I've invited her to talk with us today about sleep, hunger, appetite, midlight, weight gain, how all of those things fit together.

Thanks so much for joining us, Jade.

Thanks so much for having me. So I've talked a lot in previous

episodes of this podcast about these connections between sleep and hunger,

appetite, weight management, there are a lot of connections there.

But I'm obviously always approaching this from the food and nutrition side of things,

and I'd love to get your perspective on this as a sleep expert.

So how do you see or approach this relationship between sleep appetite and weight

management?

Sure, yeah, just as a refresher for your audience, you've probably covered how when we are sleep deprived, the body compensates for the lack of energy by craving more calories and it tends to reach out for more

saturated fats, carbs, and sweets to sort of make up for that lost energy.

Not helpful.

Pardon me? Not helpful. That's exactly right because one type of energy doesn't actually

substitute for the other. We don't get the type of energy and replenishment and refreshment that we get from sleep by eating potato chips for example.

But that's what our body needs to sort of make up for if we don't get enough sleep.

And also when we don't get enough sleep.

And also when we don't sleep enough,

we have less lepton and more Grellan levels

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