From Relay, this is Upgrade, episode 594.

It is December 15th, 2025.

Today's show is brought to you by Squarespace, delete me, gusto, and Factor. My name is Mike Hurley. I am joined by Jason Snell. Hi, Jason. Hi, Mike. This is our final regular episode of the 2025. Yeah, it gets weird after this. Or it gets special. It gets special. There you go. We've got the holiday special next week. The upgrade is the week after that.

Yeah. We'll talk about it. But I want to do some Snell talk with you to start today's show, as we always do.

And Addy wrote in and said, Jason, do you have a favorite snack? I don't know. I mean, I don't know if I have an answer to this question.

That's my favorite kind of snow talk. What a favorite snack? Yeah, if I say to you, you know, go to the supermarket, you can buy whatever you want, or you're going on a road trip, you can eat whatever you like. What are you going to grab? You're going to get some skittles Well I mean

Doritos are good

That's like a perfectly engineered food

Yeah

Not true cheese Doritos

Yeah oh yeah

I like the honey mustard

Snyders of Hanover

pretzel pieces

They're like super

intense Like you can taste them all day After you have them During the pandemic of Hanover pretzel pieces. They're like super, super intense.

Yeah, I like those.

Like you can taste them all day after you have them.

During the pandemic, Adina and I bought a Philly Cheese Steak box.

You know, I remember all those, all those boxes, like, because restaurants were just

trying to do their best to survive.

And they included some of those honey mustard Snyder's pretzel pieces and like that is a high we have been chasing ever since.

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