593: Pro-Israeli, Pro-Palestinian, Pro-Peace with Todd Deatherage
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.6 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 29 November 2023
⏱️ 96 minutes
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Summary
With a spike in antisemitism around the world since the October 7th attack in Israel and the horrible scenes of Palestinian suffering in Gaza, Jews in the U.S. are wrestling with what it really means to be pro-Israel. Phil and Skye are joined by Holy Post pundit Mike Erre to discuss a thought-provoking sermon by American Rabbi Sharon Brous. She asks, is it possible to support one’s own tribe without diminishing the human dignity of others? And how does this relate to Christian communities who feel “under siege” in America? Then, former State Department official, Todd Deatherage, shares about his 15-year effort to help Americans understand that the Israeli-Palestinian situation is not a zero-sum conflict. He says evangelicals need to stop viewing Israel as a “lucky rabbit’s foot,” and embrace a vision for biblical peacemaking in the region that is both pro-Israeli and pro-Palestinian.
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0:00 - Intro
1:38 - Show starts
4:46 - Theme Song
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6:46 - Rise of anti-semitism
13:42 - Oppressors or Oppressees
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53:53 - Interview Intro
1:03:19 - American Evangelical’s relationship with Israel
1:14:34 - Pro Israel and Pro-Palestine
1:35:19 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
The Ezra Klein Show: The Sermons I Needed to Hear Right Now on Apple Podcasts
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447?i=1000635157164
Bari Weiss’ speech at The Federalist Society
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V-kyy2zoz4
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The Telos Group - https://www.telosgroup.org/
Voxology podcast - https://voxologypodcast.com/
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. With a spike in anti-Semitism around the world since the October 7th attack in Israel, |
| 0:06.8 | and the horrible scenes of Palestinian suffering in Gaza, Jews in the U.S. are wrestling with what it really means to be pro-Israel. |
| 0:15.0 | Today, Phil and I are joined by Holy Post pundit Mike Erie to discuss a thought-provoking sermon by American |
| 0:21.5 | Rabbi Sharon Brouse. She asks, is it possible to support one's own tribe |
| 0:27.2 | without diminishing the human dignity of others? And how does this relate to Christian communities who feel under siege here in America? |
| 0:35.0 | Then former State Department official Todd Deathridge shares about his 15-year effort |
| 0:41.0 | to help Americans understand that the Israeli-Palestinian situation is not a |
| 0:45.8 | zero-sum conflict. |
| 0:47.8 | He says we need to stop viewing Israel as some kind of lucky rabbit's foot and embrace a vision for biblical peacemaking in the region. |
| 0:56.1 | For our Holy Post subscribers this week, we have a new edition of the Holy Post Office, where |
| 1:01.1 | we answer a question submitted by and voted on by our |
| 1:04.2 | listeners. This time Phil Mike and I discuss how to know which parts of the Bible to |
| 1:09.6 | take literally and which to take metaphorically. |
| 1:13.0 | That conversation is exclusively for Holy Post Plus subscribers who get access to all kinds of |
| 1:18.2 | bonus material, interviews, shows, books, and merchandise. |
| 1:22.2 | And just a quick reminder, if you're not yet a Holy Post Plus member, |
| 1:26.0 | there's still time to take advantage of our special 15% discount |
| 1:29.6 | on annual subscriptions. |
| 1:31.3 | Go to Holy Post.com to learn more. |
| 1:34.0 | All right, here's episode 593. |
| 1:38.0 | Hey there, it's Phil Fisher. |
| 1:40.0 | I'm the host of Holy Post podcast. |
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